[GDT] The 2020 UFA Big Board (frequently being updated!)

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Is escrow a function of salary, or a function of AAV? If it is AAV, having lower salaries in the first years would be irrelevant. If it is based on salary, then this would work and we could see some contracts structured this way.

It's salary. Cap hits are only used for calculating cap space. Anything that involves real money uses the real dollars on the contract.

[TheScorpion]

Updated -- #5, #51, #66, and #70 on the big board have all extended with their current teams.

[TheScorpion]

New addition to the list:

44* Michael Grabner (AZ) // Left-handed right wing // Age 32 // 46 GP, 8-3-11, 12:22

[1qqaaz]

I wouldn't be surprised if the Flames took a serious look at Tyson Barrie, since they've shown interest in PP specialists. Alberta is closer to home, and they'd be buying relatively low.

It could be possible to keep Brodie, sign Barrie, keep Talbot, and extend Mangiapane. There would still be enough space to re-sign Kylington and Reider, and then maybe even make one more smaller UFA signing.
I'm not sure how happy people would be if they Flames basically kept the same forward group.

[Crown Royal]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

I wouldn't be surprised if the Flames took a serious look at Tyson Barrie, since they've shown interest in PP specialists. Alberta is closer to home, and they'd be buying relatively low.

It could be possible to keep Brodie, sign Barrie, keep Talbot, and extend Mangiapane. There would still be enough space to re-sign Kylington and Reider, and then maybe even make one more smaller UFA signing.
I'm not sure how happy people would be if they Flames basically kept the same forward group.

I think it is unlikely the Flames could afford both Brodie and Barrie without trading some salary.

[tkflames]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

I wouldn't be surprised if the Flames took a serious look at Tyson Barrie, since they've shown interest in PP specialists. Alberta is closer to home, and they'd be buying relatively low.

It could be possible to keep Brodie, sign Barrie, keep Talbot, and extend Mangiapane. There would still be enough space to re-sign Kylington and Reider, and then maybe even make one more smaller UFA signing.
I'm not sure how happy people would be if they Flames basically kept the same forward group.

I think Barrie checks everything the Oilers are looking for. Doesn't play defense, formerly a big name, may be willing to come go the Oilers if you throw enough money at him...

This is the kind of player that will give Holland credibility in sweat pants land and allow the regular fan boys drool about the potential offensive skill, zone exits, worlds best ever PP etc.

[Sandman]

I think if Brodie is re-signed, there's no real reason to pursue Barrie. We have a good group of young D that need playing time.

[TheScorpion]

New addition to the list:

89*. Jack Johnson (PIT) // Left-handed defenseman // Age 33 // 67 GP, 3-8-11, 19:28

[getbak]

My brain hurts whenever I'm reminded that the players from the Crosby draft year are now 33.

[TheScorpion]

We also have our first addition to the unqualified RFA section of the board:

Pittsburgh:
Dominik Simon // Centre // Age 26 // 64 GP, 7-15-22, 14:24

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

We also have our first addition to the unqualified RFA section of the board:

Pittsburgh:
Dominik Simon // Centre // Age 26 // 64 GP, 7-15-22, 14:24

I don't know this guy - his stats are pretty good for a $750K salary (his QO would have been $787,500). Too smallish and not good enough 2 way?

ETA: Oh, I see he had arb rights. Maybe that was it.

[Beatle17]

I wonder if a guy like Kevan Miller, from the Bruins, would be of interest on a cheaper 7th Defenceman type contract. Hasn't played since last year but isn't retired and he seems to like the west as I think he lives in Idaho.

Big fairly tough guy that could slot in every couple games to give the young guys some time to watch games or get a break.

[flames_fan_down_under]

Hoffman would be sweet.

[Knut]

Originally Posted by flames_fan_down_under

Hoffman would be sweet.

Hoffman seems like the next Neal Signing.

[bax]

Originally Posted by flames_fan_down_under

Hoffman would be sweet.

Hoffman would be the opposite of sweet. Everything about him and his play reeks of Neal/Brouwer V3.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by bax

Hoffman would be the opposite of sweet. Everything about him and his play reeks of Neal/Brouwer V3.

Nah - those guys were slow and were supposed to have good hands around the net and could take/give punishment.

Hoffman is a speedster who can score but lacks defence.

[Harry Lime]

Dadonov seems like the better choice over Hoffman. Shore up that right side.

[Crown Royal]

Originally Posted by bax

Hoffman would be the opposite of sweet. Everything about him and his play reeks of Neal/Brouwer V3.

Hoffman is a great skater, still has a rocket of a shot and has shown 0 signs of decline. Neal was showing signs of decline, as his physical game was almost gone, he was oft injured, his production had dropped, his goals in Vegas were more right place at the right time, rather than lasers like a couple years prior and he skated like the wind on a still winter morning. Brouwer was never more than a 0.5ppg grinder that was a special teams specialist.

Hoffman is has always been considered skilled, fast, sniper. While Neal and Brouwer were considered power forwards, which is why they broke down so quickly. THe only contact Hoffman takes is for scoring goals.

The only thing he has in common with Brouwer is they both played in Florida.

[bax]

Originally Posted by Crown Royal

Hoffman is a great skater, still has a rocket of a shot and has shown 0 signs of decline. Neal was showing signs of decline, as his physical game was almost gone, he was oft injured, his production had dropped, his goals in Vegas were more right place at the right time, rather than lasers like a couple years prior and he skated like the wind on a still winter morning. Brouwer was never more than a 0.5ppg grinder that was a special teams specialist.

Hoffman is has always been considered skilled, fast, sniper. While Neal and Brouwer were considered power forwards, which is why they broke down so quickly. THe only contact Hoffman takes is for scoring goals.

The only thing he has in common with Brouwer is they both played in Florida.

I wasn't comparing them stylistically. Just in the sense that Hoffman is soon to be overpaid contract that we will be looking to dump.

Hoffman is the type of player that will score plenty of goals when put in the right situation without actually helping the team much. He will be 31 by the time the season begins and will likely command over 6 million per year.

He is great on the powerplay, but at 5 on 5 he is a major liability. The opposing teams earns 55% of the goals and expected goals when he is on the ice. He isn't going to be getting any better and his value has already dropped in three straight seasons.

Once his scoring dries up (already heavily driven by PP time) there isn't much of a player left there. Looking at how past players have aged I'm not confident his scoring prowess will be there for much longer.

If you want a 6 million dollar powerplay specialist he is your guy, but I think the Flames would be much better suited spending that money elsewhere.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Does Florida play with a defensive structure? How does Hoffman fit in there? The reason I am asking is that sometimes players can light it up on one team, then go to another team - and with the same opportunity and ice time - suddenly drop off.


I myself am not so high on Hoffman, but I am not sure he is one to avoid either (depending on the price). His goal scoring tell me that the Flames should pursue him, but his analytics tell me that is completely useless except at scoring goals.



I will go by what Cali has to say about him and 100% formulate my opinion from him