Auston Matthews charged with disorderly conduct

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by savemedrzaius

The NHL just released a warning encouraging all adult kids to refrain from attending NHL games or events that Auston Matthews will be attending.

Also it advised adult kids to never, ever accept a drink from Auston Matthews because it has likely been rupeed and putting rupees in a drink is disgusting because who knows where that money has been.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

This can be both an awful thing to do, and a dumb mistake that shouldn't significantly impact the guy's career. Both of those things can be the case, and, I think, are the case here.

I feel like this could be posted again as a reminder, y’all are losing your minds.

Feels like forming a reaction to this is a simple process:
- take it for what it is, as it is

Instead of:
- discrediting the victim
- suggesting boys will be boys
- suggesting this is some sinister, malicious act

Matthews did something very stupid. It could have been a lot worse. There’s no good excuse for him having done it at all. The punishment should be appropriate.

Seems simple.

[sempuki]

Originally Posted by ST20

People are going really deep on a thread based off of a one sided story (doesn't mean it's wrong though). No one got hurt. Just leave it as another dumb stupid drunken incident... unless more info comes out. If you want to make it a hockey related story talk about how he is dumb and immature he is and how it hurts his captaincy.

Let's lay off of the outrage and moral superiority discussion unless more information comes out.

Like the police report?

[sempuki]

Originally Posted by savemedrzaius

Matthews is dumb for doing this and if he didn't let the Leafs know about this I'd say that is a good reason to give the captaincy to Tavares.

I don't understand why the security guard was sitting in her car at 2 am? She must have been on the job right?

I also find it funny with all the white knights on here. If this was a male security guard in his car would you still be up in arms? Just because it's a woman doesn't mean she needs protection.

Someone already posted how much more likely women are to be victims of sexual violence. Being female is relevant. Apparently it's white knighting to think it's creepy to sneak up on a woman alone in a car at 2am with a squad of your drunk friends.

[RichKlit]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

"Boys will be boys"

####, I can't wait for that stupid excuse to go away.

There is ZERO reason someone has to accost a stranger to have a good time. Also, just because you're young doesn't mean you shouldn't act like a professional in public. Dumb dip####s working on the rigs do stuff like this because they know they don't have much of a future. Even if we shouldn't expect young people to behave somewhat adequately in public, I have no idea why someone who gets nearly $12 million dollars a year doesn't have someone around him managing his stupid impulses.

Im not here to derail the thread but you can go @#$% yourself with the comments about oil workers. Thousands of good people work/worked on the rigs to support their families including mine.

[sempuki]

Originally Posted by savemedrzaius

I'm not excusing Matthews with “Boys will be boys” he is one of the top stars in the NHL and plays for a team that is constantly under scrutiny; he needs to be smarter.

But be honest, if this was just some group of drunken fratboys would you care about it? Would it enrage you?

Also I find it strange how she constantly references how she is a female to the drunken idiots and the police officer. If she feels so vulnerable she really shouldn't be a security officer working overnight.

I know plenty of female officers and they don't need their hands held or protection. They are strong and proud of their jobs. They don't need a man to protect them when their jobs get dangerous.

Male or female they deserve the right to do their job in safety. I'm certain she would have felt pretty safe opening fire, but we're all glad she didn't. I'm sure a male guard would have felt unsafe as well, but probably wouldn't have mentioned it.

[CSharp]

D'amn - here I thought Austin Matthews was just a boring guy with a straight face all the time. That's actually pretty funny that he mooned the security guard! Should call him "Mooner" from now on!

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by sempuki

Someone already posted how much more likely women are to be victims of sexual violence. Being female is relevant. Apparently it's white knighting to think it's creepy to sneak up on a woman alone in a car at 2am with a squad of your drunk friends.

That's just the sort of argument that was historically used to keep women out of the police, the military, and jobs like security guards. Women are more vulnerable. We shouldn't expose them to danger.

What Matthews and his pals did was idiotic and obnoxious. It should make anyone question his judgement and his maturity - he's a public figure, not some random frat boy. He's earned enormous wealth and status, and in exchange he has to live his life under more scrutiny and higher standards than other 22 year old jocks. That's the tradeoff.

However, the gender of the security guard should be irrelevant. If she's fragile due to PTSD, then she's in the wrong job. If women really are more vulnerable than men, and if we have a collective duty to protect them, then we need to rethink putting them at risk in jobs where they're liable to find themselves in potentially dangerous situations with bad men. Personally, I give the women who choose to do those jobs more credit than that.

[sempuki]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

That's just the sort of argument that was historically used to keep women out of the police, the military, and jobs like security guards. Women are more vulnerable. We shouldn't expose them to danger.

What Matthews and his pals did was idiotic and obnoxious. It should make anyone question his judgement and his maturity - he's a public figure, not some random frat boy. He's earned enormous wealth and status, and in exchange he has to live his life under more scrutiny and higher standards than other 22 year old jocks. That's the tradeoff.

However, the gender of the security guard should be irrelevant. If she's fragile due to PTSD, then she's in the wrong job. If women really are more vulnerable than men, and if we have a collective duty to protect them, then we need to rethink putting them at risk in jobs where they're liable to find themselves in potentially dangerous situations with bad men. Personally, I give the women who choose to do those jobs more credit than that.

For the legality of the act, gender is indeed irrelevant. A male security guard can be beaten or raped too. Both men and women deserve the right to do their job without beating or rape. But to say the fact she's a woman is irrelevant is to say context is irrelevant, which is only something you do if you want to torture facts to for a narrative. And to say "if she's that scared she shouldn't be a rentacop footpad" is to blame the victim for feeling natural human emotions, and precisely thing the that keeps women from working tough jobs because their objectively justifiable concerns are not taken seriously.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Bouw N Arrow

This is true. He needs to be smarter 100% but it wasn’t malicious it was a joke. He could have legally been shot in self defense here. I have a gun in my car as do most people I know. People you wouldn’t consider to be “gun nuts” to which I am not either.

Damn Arizona, you scary.

[Jiri Hrdina]

A a rule of thumb if you find yourself saying "boys will be boys" or worse yet "bros will be bros" you should evaluate your perspective on things.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

A a rule of thumb if you find yourself saying "boys will be boys" or worse yet "bros will be bros" you should evaluate your perspective on things.

This coming from the guy saying " a rule of thumb"

Yikes

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by sempuki

... to say "if she's that scared she shouldn't be a rentacop footpad" is to blame the victim for feeling natural human emotions, and precisely thing the that keeps women from working tough jobs because their objectively justifiable concerns are not taken seriously.

Is PTSD to be regarded as "natural human emotions"? I don't doubt that this incident would scare pretty much anyone, but a serious clinical condition which potentially affects one's ability to do their job seems to me like something altogether different.

[cam_wmh]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

This coming from the guy saying " a rule of thumb"

Yikes

Green text amirite? Otherwise, you make no sense.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by cam_wmh

Green text amirite? Otherwise, you make no sense.

Wish i knew how to do green text lol

[sempuki]

Originally Posted by cam_wmh

Green text amirite? Otherwise, you make no sense.

I just got it: the rule of thumb apparently meant you could beat a woman with a stick so long as it was thinner than your thumb. However this origin is probably not correct, and applied to any approximation made by comparing something to your thumb (roughly an inch).

[868904]

It's funny how this was never the lead item on Sportsnet, yet when Nylander scores a nice goal in practice, the whole world has to know about it.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by 868904

It's funny how this was never the lead item on Sportsnet, yet when Nylander scores a nice goal in practice, the whole world has to know about it.

Good.

I turn on sportsnet for highlights, not police matters.

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by Dube

Have they? Nice crispy footage on those relics? Do you have a clip?

Look at you finding all the loopholes.

[EldrickOnIce]

Austin Matthews is obviously still an immature a-hole.
This is the one and only relevant takeaway from this incident. Well, that and that he is really very lucky he wasn't shot dead by this security person.