Jankowski/Gilmour signing watch. (Friedman: "Arm-wrestling" over bonuses)

[GranteedEV]

Just a thought about NHLe and compensatory picks.

Jankowski has a higher NHLe this season than Emile Poirier, who is about three months younger.

Would people trade Poirier for a 2017 51st overall pick this offseason? If the answer is "no" then be consistent WRT Jankowski. At the very LEAST they are comparable prospects though I've had Jankowski well ahead of Poirier.

[Alberta_Beef]

I just want to point out that if the Flames sign Jankowski to an ELC starting this year it would be a 3 year deal as he is just 21, but I think if he signs for next yer it would be a 2 year deal. I think the benefit he would receive is the bonus money and arbitration rights a year sooner

[Hockey Fan #751]

This might be a stupid question, but if Jankowski didn't sign with the Flames by August 15 (and they made him an offer) but then they ended up signing him AFTER, they wouldn't still get the compensatory pick would they?

Maybe the rules say that they would, but then they'd lose a first rounder for CBA circumvention

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

I just want to point out that if the Flames sign Jankowski to an ELC starting this year it would be a 3 year deal as he is just 21, but I think if he signs for next yer it would be a 2 year deal. I think the benefit he would receive is the bonus money and arbitration rights a year sooner

He's turns 22 by September 15th so it's 2 years regardless.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

I just want to point out that if the Flames sign Jankowski to an ELC starting this year it would be a 3 year deal as he is just 21, but I think if he signs for next yer it would be a 2 year deal. I think the benefit he would receive is the bonus money and arbitration rights a year sooner

Incorrect. If he signs today, he is considered 22 for contract purposes (22 on Sept 15th). It is a two year ELC.

If it signs for this season, it will run from 2015-17. In 2017-18 he will be eligible to pass to the AHL without requiring waivers, but will be on a normal contract like Bill Arnold.

If it signs for next season, it will run from 2016-18.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Incorrect. If he signs today, he is considered 22 for contract purposes (22 on Sept 15th). It is a two year ELC.

If it signs for this season, it will run from 2015-17. In 2017-18 he will be eligible to pass to the AHL without requiring waivers, but will be on a normal contract like Bill Arnold.

If it signs for next season, it will run from 2016-18.

I thought Jankowski's birthday was just after the 15th, I was thinking about the draft and him almost being ineligible and got mixed and was thinking if he was a week older he'd have been ineligible but it was a week later and he'd have been eligible for the following year

[Hockey Fan #751]

Jankowski was born on September 13, 1994.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Hockey Fan #751

Jankowski was born on September 13, 1994.

Yep. And Monahan was born on October 12th, 1994. The two centers are less than a month apart in age despite being a year apart in draft year.

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by InCoGnEtO

Did he mention in that article that we only get the 51st pick if we OFFER him a contract, and he declines it? if no contract is offered, no pick is given.

Yeah, but the offer can be such a bad contract that it's essentially unsignable. You can offer a player a 2-way deal with a $35K AHL salary and no bonuses to maintain their rights and get a compensatory pick when they refuse.

[dissentowner]

Nobody knows what the ceiling is for Jankowski yet. He has the instincts and tools to be a top 6 centre but I think at worst you have a top end 3rd line C who can chip in 30-40 points. That is not a bad thing at all.

[killer_carlson]

Several IV bags?

That's scary.

Hope the kid is ok.

[Ryan Coke]

Great counter piece written by Darren Haynes.

Facts and Thoughts on Mark Jankowski

[Racki]

I'm glad he was just ill. A nagging groin or hamstring injury would prevent us from getting a look at him. I'd really like to see him play a couple games in Calgary this year.

[sharkov]

Hopefully I will be changing my signature soon

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by sharkov

Hopefully I will be changing my signature soon

Your signature makes no sense.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by sharkov

Hopefully I will be changing my signature soon

I don't get it.

[1qqaaz]

Poirier and Jankowski are pretty close in terms of ranking them as prospects IMO

It's hard to say which is better at the moment, although it looks like we will find out soon rather than later. They are quite different, but they both have many positive attributes.

Janko's size will be a bigger distinguishing factor if he can get to his final weight

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Nobody knows what the ceiling is for Jankowski yet. He has the instincts and tools to be a top 6 centre but I think at worst you have a top end 3rd line C who can chip in 30-40 points. That is not a bad thing at all.

I like Jankowski but the worst case scenario is that he never plays a single NHL game.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

I like Jankowski but the worst case scenario is that he never plays a single NHL game.

You forgot to read the part where I said "I think"

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

You forgot to read the part where I said "I think"

Does that somehow change what you wrote? I always assume people post things that they think/believe.