[PGT] The curse continues. Flames lose 5-3. Score flatters Flames.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by hockey.modern

Uh? Rehab for what?

@RogMillions: Ladislav Smid appears to be leaving #Flames at game's end. Not going with team to Az

@RogMillions: Could be rehab assignment .. Will wait for word from #Flames

ie play for the Heat on a conditioning stint but it won't help much because Smid hasn't been good for a long while.

Hell, they're in Cali

[Samonadreau]

At the end i was like ok at least kesler missed the open net and hit the post...... and the kesler scored the empty netter with .5 seconds left...... Kesler?! C'mon man...wtf

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by hockey.modern

Uh? Rehab for what?

@RogMillions: Ladislav Smid appears to be leaving #Flames at game's end. Not going with team to Az

@RogMillions: Could be rehab assignment .. Will wait for word from #Flames

Whats the ruling to be eligible for a re-hab assignment? He has been back a while and played last week.

[Wiggum_PI]

What's the news on Hudler? Hopefully he'll be back for the Coyotes game on Fri.

[hockey.modern]

Confirmed: @NHLFlames: The #Flames have assigned Ladislav Smid to Stockton on a conditioning assignment. He will play for the Heat tomorrow.

[dammage79]

Goaltending Goaltending Goaltending. This team is going no where fast until this situation is resolved.

Want to talk about defense? Sure you can, still at the end of the day a lot of these goals are very stoppable for about 27 other goalies in the league. The goaltender is the last line of defense, is there to stop the puck from going in the net when the defense breaks down. Ramo had his great run, still only came out with what? 5 wins in his 12 starts? Stole 1 of those game for his team. Maybe .....maybe 2.

The Defense is one part of the problem yes, as is the lack of adaptation by the coaching staff. If the problem pie was cut 3 ways, goaltending would be the biggest piece.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by Realtor 1

Lets in a soft goal? To one of the leagues best goal scorers since entering the league left in tight. It should have been saved but sometimes the puck finds the one tiny hole. Its not as if he was out of position.

It doesn't matter who it's against. That goal should never ever go in. I wouldn't say it deflated the team at that point but it gave momentum to the Ducks they should have never had.

[Frank MetaMusil]

Originally Posted by Realtor 1

True, but Hamilton should not be playing with a offensive d partner. Hamiltons strength is in the O zone and rushing the puck. His weakness is in his own zone.
I would love to see

Brodie - Russell - 2 guys who can create offensive chances and have great wheels yet you get the fantastic defenisve side in Brodie.

Hamilton - Gio - Gio can go back to just worrying about defense and let Hamilton take over the offensive side.

Wideman Engelland - Just keep the minutes as low as possible and ride your top guys.

This already happened and didn't work. Remember when Brodie was hurt?

[Travis Munroe]

Originally Posted by AcGold

what top teams have a goalie with a .898 average? He's not playing to the level of an NHL starter. Every team has players that giveaway the puck every game, however not every team has a goalie that lets in a soft goal every game. It wasn't kind of a soft goal, it was beyond bad. That kind of thing demoralizes a team more than almost anything.

The ducks had 2 goals against on 4 shots that were 1000x softer than Ramo letting an elite player score in tight.

So if someone wants to use the deflating excuse I fully understand however in this game the ducks should have been more deflated than the flames so it is a invalid argument imo.

And any deflating was re inflated when he made a couple of saves that go in on most goalies!

[AcGold]

Originally Posted by Realtor 1

The ducks had 2 goals against on 4 shots that were 1000x softer than Ramo letting an elite player score in tight.

So if someone wants to use the deflating excuse I fully understand however in this game the ducks should have been more deflated than the flames so it is a invalid argument imo.

Except the Flames goal was when we were already up 2-0. Now you're just being pedantic.

[Travis Munroe]

Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil

This already happened and didn't work. Remember when Brodie was hurt?

Yea but I feel like Hamilton has come along a little bit since then and they also wouldnt be the top pairing like I believe they were when it was tried before.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Goaltending Goaltending Goaltending. This team is going no where fast until this situation is resolved.

Want to talk about defense? Sure you can, still at the end of the day a lot of these goals are very stoppable for about 27 other goalies in the league. The goaltender is the last line of defense, is there to stop the puck from going in the net when the defense breaks down. Ramo had his great run, still only came out with what? 5 wins in his 12 starts?Stole 1 of those game for his team. Maybe .....maybe 2.

The Defense is one part of the problem yes, as is the lack of adaptation by the coaching staff. If the problem pie was cut 3 ways, goaltending would be the biggest piece.

Actually had 6 wins in 11 starts just if your keeping count.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Realtor 1

The ducks had 2 goals against on 4 shots that were 1000x softer than Ramo letting an elite player score in tight.

So if someone wants to use the deflating excuse I fully understand however in this game the ducks should have been more deflated than the flames so it is a invalid argument imo.

And any deflating was re inflated when he made a couple of saves that go in on most goalies!

Deflating? Sure they were. Khudobins were terribad. But Boudreau also rectified that situation didn't he? Yes he did. And got the win.

Why such a staunch defense of Ramo every single time someone points out they don't like how he plays? He's more responsible than the D men. they're not paid to stop pucks, he is.

I've been more than fair with my thoughts on Ramo during his hot streak. But you got to call a spade a spade at some point. He's just not good enough. Consistent enough.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

Actually had 6 wins in 11 starts just if your keeping count.

Thanks, I was running it off of the top of my head.

[Travis Munroe]

Originally Posted by AcGold

Except the Flames goal was when we were already up 2-0. Now you're just being pedantic.

Agree to disagree

But loss after loss you have blamed the same person. Go back to any post game after a loss when Ramo has played and you peg it on him as if we expect him to be a legitimate #1 goalie in this league. He went through waivers without being claimed.

I think the team knows what they have between the pipes. Perhaps more focus should be on Hamilton and Jooris for leaving Ramo to hand? Does that not deflate a team?

[KootenayFlamesFan]

I saw it on twitter tonight, someone mentioned the losses of Byron and Bouma on the PK. Never gave it a lot of thought, but it's true. The pure speed of Byron (even if he couldn't score on a breakaway), and the tenacity of Bouma. And not just on the PK.

[ScorchyScorch]

Russell - Brodie should have happened yesterday as they'd at least be the two guys you could rely on to a) defending competently and b) skate the puck out of the damn zone. Bob is insistent on recapturing the magic of Brodie - Gio that clearly is non existent to this point.

Ramo was competent in the second period. Yeah the D messed up on numerous occasions, but he's supposed to be one of the 30 best goalies in the world if he's a starter in this league and a couple of those goals should be routine saves or at least doable for a goalie in that class of elite.

I guess we'll get Hiller back in this weekend. Maybe he comes in refreshed and can start saving at over .900

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Deflating? Sure they were. Khudobins were terribad. But Boudreau also rectified that situation didn't he? Yes he did. And got the win.

Why such a staunch defense of Ramo every single time someone points out they don't like how he plays? He's more responsible than the D men. they're not paid to stop pucks, he is.

I've been more than fair with my thoughts on Ramo during his hot streak. But you got to call a spade a spade at some point. He's just not good enough. Consistent enough.

A goalie is not "more responsible than the D men". A goalie is the last line of defence.

[dammage79]

Bouma will be back. But he also needed to be a whole lot better before he went down to injury as well. I hope he comes back raring to go, we need 2014 Bouma.

Byrons gone, hes moved on, so should we.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I've been more than fair with my thoughts on Ramo during his hot streak. But you got to call a spade a spade at some point. He's just not good enough. Consistent enough.

That's my biggest concern going forward for the next few years. Ramo and Hiller are fillers. Ortio is a question mark. Same with Gillies.

This team needs a #1 guy to roll with. I don't see an obvious one anywhere.