[News] CalgaryNEXT Announcement. New arena details emerge.

[RM14]

Originally Posted by Fire

Having the Stampeders play in a multi-purpose building makes a lot of sense unless it looks like garbage. Hopefully they have pictures on the 18th.

And the seats are able to be tight to the field. I assume there will be a track that CFL configuration would cover.

[Badgers Nose]

I'm hoping for an MLS team.

I know its a long shot, but I'm really digging MLS games. Assertive offense focused soccer is entertaining.

I'll be a founder STH.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Weitz

Why is remediation of land the sellers problem? Why can't they sell as is?

I mean other than taking a hit on the value.. I am sure you could still make money off it.

Yeah, if its same difference why would the buyer mind?

Because it is probably not, and they don't want to get stuck with the bill.

But it will all get sorted out.

[johnnybegaudreau]

For the earlier posters. Fieldhouse is just a generic name for a sporting venue. It's used a lot in colleges in the states. Many colleges have their fieldhouse/training facilities like UM, a few basketball teams too etc. They are very much full sized stadiums and or arenas (in the case of bball) with all the amenities for housing football, basketball, track and swimming and other stuff.

This will be a transformative football arena with amenties for public use... see the Calgary Fieldhouse project for the types of events and sort of set up that they will want for public use. All kinds of amateur sports groups need something like this. The rumored 200M i think is fair given that many amateur groups that need this sort of facility built. Not to mention the Flames foundation for life has built amateur arenas and given money to amateur sporting facilities in Calgary for the last 20 years. TBH that's way better than McMahon which sits empty 90% of the year. The stamps play what 10 games a season maybe 12 if they go the distance. It be great to have that thing booked all the time. Also as others have pointed out having a transformative stadium complex allows for MLS expansion, potentially concert series, and many many variety of other events. Smart move by the Flames. It's one I predicted on here months back in the arena thread. Financially, economically it makes sense on mutliple levels. I think it's something Calgarian tax payers can behind too.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by mikephoen

Have all season ticket holders been invited to this? I haven't seen the invite in my email yet.

Given the limited space, invites are probably by seniority.

[TX_Flame]

Originally Posted by jmac98

Just make it really ugly and call it an art project. There's another 1% from the city contributed right there...

Ugly??? I think that bridge is one of the coolest things in the entire city. Calgary finally built something that belongs in the 21st century.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by johnnybegaudreau

For the earlier posters. Fieldhouse is just a generic name for a sporting venue. It's used a lot in colleges in the states. Many colleges have their fieldhouse/training facilities like UM, a few basketball teams too etc. They are very much full sized stadiums and or arenas (in the case of bball) with all the amenities for housing football, basketball, track and swimming and other stuff.

This will be a transformative football arena with amenties for public use... see the Calgary Fieldhouse project for the types of events and sort of set up that they will want for public use. All kinds of amateur sports groups need something like this. The rumored 200M i think is fair given that many amateur groups that need this sort of facility built. Not to mention the Flames foundation for life has built amateur arenas and given money to amateur sporting facilities in Calgary for the last 20 years. TBH that's way better than McMahon which sits empty 90% of the year. The stamps play what 10 games a season maybe 12 if they go the distance. It be great to have that thing booked all the time. Also as others have pointed out having a transformative stadium complex allows for MLS expansion, potentially concert series, and many many variety of other events. Smart move by the Flames. It's one I predicted on here months back in the arena thread. Financially, economically it makes sense on mutliple levels. I think it's something Calgarian tax payers can behind too.

This also makes sense when I try to visualize this project in the west village. I was trying to visualize a football stadium, arena, entertainment district AND a fieldhouse and I just couldn't picture where it would all go.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by shermanator

Anyone thinking that we are getting an MLS team with this complex is completely out to lunch. MLS has NO interest in expanding in Canada. You can all forget about that possibility.

However, there have been rumours that a Canadian Division 1 is going to launch in 2017, with a Calgary team, that may have the Flames involved as investors. Perhaps a fieldhouse would work as a grounds for that team? The information is really only being leaked from one source so they have been taken with a large grain of salt to date until a second source of leaks can corroborate the information.

http://www.canadiansoccernews.com/in...e-cities-r5374

Agreed, and thanks for sharing this. This is exactly what I was expecting all along. Calgary is just way too far down the list of potential MLS cities.

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by Demaeon

Did you even read the email?

not a formal LAUNCH.

Unless your just trying to be funny...

[heep223]

It's going to be awesome not having to choose between a beer and a pee, if you don't want to miss any of the game. It was so bad during the playoffs that we actually left the dome, went behind some bushes and then re-entered. This proved to be an excellent strategy.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

That is basically the same thing. Either way it comes out of the sellers pocket.

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

Yeah, if its same difference why would the buyer mind?

Because it is probably not, and they don't want to get stuck with the bill.

But it will all get sorted out.

I think if I owned the land and it was valuable to the flames to build their stadiums I wouldn't be paying for most of the remediation. I think I would be able to negotiate more than what the value of the land would be minus clean up.

[I-Hate-Hulse]

Originally Posted by polak

Maybe this arena has been under construction this whole time in secret and on Tuesday it will rise from under the bow river in epic fashion.

Maybe Ken King has been watching Contact and we get a suspiciously red tinged clone of Edmonton's Roger's Place...

[BurningSteel]

Originally Posted by H2SO4(aq)

Never thought I'd live to see the announcement

Knock on some wood. Monday is a long ways off.

[TX_Flame]

Originally Posted by Muta

Well, my 'socks' are now blown off.

You mean your soccers are blown off, no? How about your boots?

[Bunk]

My prediction re: funding proposal:

$200m cash from owners for arena
$200m ticket tax over a period of time (backdropped by owners, not City)
$200m from City for Fieldhouse/Stadium (instead of $200m City has for Foothills Fieldhouse in its capital plan - note it is unfunded still)
$100m cash from owners for Fieldhouse/Stadium
$200m borrowed through CRL (like East Village) for remediation and infrastructure
$100m from Province and/or Feds for environmental remediation and infrastructure (helping facilitate but not paying for arena/stadium for things needed anyway regardless of those facilities)
Land given by City for "free"

Boom $1 billion give or take.

[Thunderball]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Agreed, and thanks for sharing this. This is exactly what I was expecting all along. Calgary is just way too far down the list of potential MLS cities.

Money talks, and if an ownership group like the Flames with a new stadium designed for MLS comes along, Calgary may jump to the top of the list pretty fast. MLS isn't actively seeking Canadian clubs, but I doubt they would refuse if the right arrangement came along (something like this). The ultimate build up for MLS is likely 32, just like the other American sport leagues. Minnesota for instance was just announced and are still three years out (2018). Hence a 10 year plan seems feasible.

CSA Div 1A is an even bigger pipe dream with reports coming only from one reporter. It smells of Canadian Baseball League or worse, the CUSL plans.
NASL is possible due to the rumblings of a Canadian division, and the existence of Ottawa and Edmonton, but Division 2 soccer might be too minor league for the Flames to consider as part of their plans when planning at this scale.

No doubt they are sounding out MLS. Whether they can queue jump is another question.

[troutman]

Cecil Hotel being demolished. New arena site?

http://calgaryherald.com/business/co...6d972559461715

This particular block is poised for redevelopment with a number of other projects planned in the vicinity

[sureLoss]

Roger Millions @RogMillions
A source has suggested to me "CalgaryNext" if and when "vision" goes ahead could take up to 8 years to totally be completed. We will see

[getbak]

It looks like the press conference will be at 2:30 on Tuesday:

Kristen Odland ‏@KristenOdlandCH

Calgary Sports and Entertainment Corporation to "introduce vision" on Tuesday at 2:30 p.m. at the Scotiabank Saddledome.

So, all you unwashed "Tier 2" fans will be able to see it then.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Roger Millions @RogMillions
A source has suggested to me "CalgaryNext" if and when "vision" goes ahead could take up to 8 years to totally be completed. We will see

Well, of course. If there's work / live / play components, and not just sports facilities, we're talking about a commitment to development. That takes time. Just look at the East Village.