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View Poll Results: What are your thoughts on the Flames CalgaryNext presentation? (select multiple)
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Get digging, I love it all!
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37.27% |
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Too much tax money
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17.99% |
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Too much ticket tax
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Need more parking
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18.71% |
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I need more details, can't say at this time
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28.78% |
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The city owns it? Great deal for Calgary
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15.83% |
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Need to clean up this area anyway, its embarassing
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25.76% |
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Needs a retractable roof
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12.81% |
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Great idea but don't think it will fly with stake holders
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69 |
9.93% |
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Why did it take 2 years to come up with this?
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23.17% |
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Curious to see the city's response
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08-12-2015, 02:32 PM
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#121
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Franchise Player
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Why is remediation of land the sellers problem? Why can't they sell as is?
I mean other than taking a hit on the value.. I am sure you could still make money off it.
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08-12-2015, 02:34 PM
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#122
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flameswin
Despite what I just said about Polak being negative, the cynic in me says Calgary is likely headed for very tough economic times for a lot of years, where even the Flames as a playoff/contender will lose lots of fans from their ticket buying base.
A brand new MLS team could work in pre-2015 Calgary, but I'd imagine it'll be tough to have success in our new reality as a city, and 1.2 million people (which I believe is low for MLS cities).
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That could work in the MLS team's favour. MLS season tickets would be a drop in the bucket compared to Flames season tickets, and represent a value opportunity for Calgarians to get their live sports fix.
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08-12-2015, 02:34 PM
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#123
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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Originally Posted by bizaro86
What are the odds that seat licenses will be used to pay for this?
I'm a bit concerned that I'll be asked to pony up $10k/seat to keep my season tickets at a time when my job is looking pretty uncertain.
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The second part of your post sums up why they can't really do it right now. I mean asking for PSLs in 2005 when everything was going well? That's still a tough sell but there's enough people with big money that it probably is fine. But asking for PSLs now seems like a PR nightmare with the economy as is.
Now if the arena is built in 5+years and the economy is better then? Might see PSLs then.
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08-12-2015, 02:38 PM
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Calgary
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Makes sense, that's my birthday!
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08-12-2015, 02:39 PM
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#125
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bizaro86
what are the odds that seat licenses will be used to pay for this?
I'm a bit concerned that i'll be asked to pony up $10k/seat to keep my season tickets at a time when my job is looking pretty uncertain.
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08-12-2015, 02:47 PM
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#126
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Franchise Player
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They might call it a field house, but the City won't be paying $200 million for a Stampeders practice facility.
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Originally Posted by hockey.modern
I do wonder if the field house will solely be $200m or that is just what the Flames are asking as a part for the total cost of the stadium
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Cost of Evraz Place in Regina is estimated to be $278 million. I suspect $200 million is just the ask from the City, but that's just my guess.
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08-12-2015, 02:58 PM
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#127
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Has lived the dream!
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Where I lay my head is home...
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Man I'd love to go to that meeting.
I agree that wrapping up the financing details will probably take quite a while. Lots of levels of government to talk with, and as mentioned, the economics aren't really good right now, and probably won't be good for a while.
At the very least though, we probably find out what area of the city it will be in finally! East Village? West Village? Somewhere else?
I just hope it's some place central.
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08-12-2015, 02:59 PM
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#128
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: CGY
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Hey look, the Calgary Herald used BoomBoom picture of the statement: http://calgaryherald.com/news/local-...na-speculation
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08-12-2015, 03:02 PM
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#129
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Weitz
Why is remediation of land the sellers problem? Why can't they sell as is?
I mean other than taking a hit on the value.. I am sure you could still make money off it.
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That is basically the same thing. Either way it comes out of the sellers pocket.
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08-12-2015, 03:02 PM
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#130
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: 403
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Igottago
That could work in the MLS team's favour. MLS season tickets would be a drop in the bucket compared to Flames season tickets, and represent a value opportunity for Calgarians to get their live sports fix.
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This. For 18ish games a season with a $10-25 price per game, you can get a whole season in a supporters section cheaper than what some people pay for 1 Flames game.
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08-12-2015, 03:02 PM
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#131
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by hockey.modern
I do hope that the facility will be similar to the Vikings new U.S. Bank Stadium as from what I've seen, it will be housed for multi sport facility's as well.
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I too hope the Flames build a $1.06bil stadium/fieldhouse for the Stamps! 
It would be pretty cool, but even though I know what you were getting at (a CFL sized, cheaper version of that), it still wouldn't make sense as that stadium kind of is what it is. It looks and functions amazingly because it's a +$1bil stadium.
If you stripped that down to fit our budget all you'd end up with is a crappy, cheap looking knock off version of it.
Definitely a cool stadium, though.
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08-12-2015, 03:03 PM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Calgary
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Atlanta United FC is set to begin playing in the MLS in 2017. So that 10 year time frame they're talking about would mean they'll be moving to Calgary in about their 8th year of operation. Their colours are also red, gold and black.
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08-12-2015, 03:10 PM
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#133
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Weitz
Why is remediation of land the sellers problem? Why can't they sell as is?
I mean other than taking a hit on the value.. I am sure you could still make money off it.
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I could be wrong, but I don't think you're allowed to sell land until you receive a remediation certificate. I don't know the rules though. Maybe someone can clarify?
I think it has something to do with actually getting the environment remediation done instead of passing around a hot potato liability and costs of remediation increasing year after year and the work never getting done, but I could be wrong.
Last edited by DoubleF; 08-12-2015 at 03:12 PM.
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08-12-2015, 03:15 PM
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#134
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Jun 2014
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Originally Posted by hockey.modern
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That's awesome. Thanks for pointing that out.
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08-12-2015, 03:15 PM
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#135
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Toronto
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Originally Posted by FlamesKickAss
I'm just going for the free lunch
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Did you even read the email?
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This is not a formal lunch
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08-12-2015, 03:22 PM
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#137
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In the Sin Bin
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Does it come with the blimp?
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08-12-2015, 03:26 PM
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#138
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Franchise Player
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Anyone thinking that we are getting an MLS team with this complex is completely out to lunch. MLS has NO interest in expanding in Canada. You can all forget about that possibility.
However, there have been rumours that a Canadian Division 1 is going to launch in 2017, with a Calgary team, that may have the Flames involved as investors. Perhaps a fieldhouse would work as a grounds for that team? The information is really only being leaked from one source so they have been taken with a large grain of salt to date until a second source of leaks can corroborate the information.
http://www.canadiansoccernews.com/in...e-cities-r5374
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08-12-2015, 03:27 PM
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#139
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: CGY
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08-12-2015, 03:29 PM
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#140
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Having the Stampeders play in a multi-purpose building makes a lot of sense unless it looks like garbage. Hopefully they have pictures on the 18th.
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