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Old 11-02-2014, 01:11 AM   #141
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So you then have a use of the word Fat in a positive sense?
Nope. My position is that being 'plus-sized', 'overweight', 'fat', 'big', 'curvy', 'voluptuous', 'BBW', 'fiercely real', 'big-boned', 'heavy set' or anything else you might choose to call it is negative trait no matter what you call it.

No matter what euphemism is chosen, it will gain insulting meaning because the trait it describes is inherently negative, so let's get off the euphemism treadmill and just call it 'fat'.
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Old 11-02-2014, 08:16 AM   #142
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Because YOU don't have any issues with the "size" of people, this then means people who hear the term "fat" "fatty" "fatso" should just grow a thicker skin and stop being offended by such terms that describe them as they really are..

Certainly not my problem, just those Fatties that need to get over it and appreciate the fact "I" don't have an issue with the word "fat" so they obviously should not either.

Spoken from a person who has never had weight issues....

Wow, you were on a roll last night, making assumptions in multiple threads about people you don't know, that are wrong.

What I'm finding ironic is the posters who keep propagating the negative connotations are the ones with the major complaints.

"NO, YOU MEANT FATTY FAT FAT, Disgusting lazy sloth fat, thats what you really meant"

"Calling fat people a bunch of fatties, fatso, etc., pfft, typical coming from a skinny male model who's never been overweight"

I'd bet a more safe assumption is that the majority of people on this forum are sensitive to people's issues with health and weight and supportive of those who have decided they have a problem with their weight. There's always going to be jerks, whether it's over weight, race, sexuality or some other random issue. Gage your peers, inner/outer circle and the ones that are jerks don't need to be part of that group.

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=129484

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Old 11-02-2014, 08:55 AM   #143
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Being fat sucks. At least for me it did.

I was going to start a thread about my experience but figured Id just add it here.

I was an active and fit kid and young adult. Then I started a demanding career that resulted in me working days and weekends which meant little or no time for activity. I also ate out a lot or ordered food to the office and had lots of work events that included food. There was also always alcohol involved in work meals.

Then boom, one day I realize Im fat and out of shape. Im not sure how much I gained at my peak but somewhere around 30 or 40 pounds up. The weight gain happened slowly and I never really paid attention or maybe I was in denial along the way. I didn't pay attention to having to buy bigger pants or that clothes no longer fit.
Things like walking got harder. I started getting winded walking up a flight of stairs. I lost core strength and flexibility. It wasn't just weight gain but loss of fitness in general.
Tying my shoes got harder. Bending over to pick stuff up got harder. If I was sitting on the floor, getting up got harder.
I had a gut. If I sat down, I would have rolls. The rolls would get sweaty. It was gross. I was pretty disgusted with what I had done to myself.

I did it all to myself. I made the choice to have a demanding job. I made the choice to eat like a sloth. I made the choice to drink alcohol with my meals. I made the choice to no longer be as active as I had been in the past.

I then made the choice to change things in my life. I made some changes and got back to being the person that I liked and started doing the things that I loved again.

I think a lot of fat people don't realize that they are fat or how fat they are. I sure didn't until I had a wake up call.


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Most overweight people have 'no idea how fat they are' - and also underestimate the size of their children
71 per cent of obese adults underestimated a person's size
This is compared with just 9 per cent of people of normal weight
Majority of mothers of overweight children misjudged their child's weight
But only seven per cent of mothers with normal-weight children did
Experts said misjudgments should be accounted for by obesity officials
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Old 11-02-2014, 10:12 AM   #144
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In several Spanish speaking countries I lived in, it was certainly normal to speak of someone who is fat as 'fat' and someone who is skinny, as 'skinny', plus other descriptors of people.

You could say, "Hey fat guy, come here" and it would be fairly normal.
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Old 11-02-2014, 04:55 PM   #145
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Here is an interesting story.

Jared Lorenzen was the NFL QB who weighed 303lbs at his last weighin in the NFL. He had all the physical tools but simply could never overcome an obvious food addiction.

http://espn.go.com/espn/feature/stor...-battle-weight

As Lorenzen says, you can't just quit eating cold turkey. People who struggle with food have to live in a world where they are bombarded with conflicting images of unhealthily thin models and a constant stream of advertising for cheap and easily accessible fast food.
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Old 11-02-2014, 05:40 PM   #146
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Here is an interesting story.

Jared Lorenzen was the NFL QB who weighed 303lbs at his last weighin in the NFL. He had all the physical tools but simply could never overcome an obvious food addiction.

http://espn.go.com/espn/feature/stor...-battle-weight

As Lorenzen says, you can't just quit eating cold turkey. People who struggle with food have to live in a world where they are bombarded with conflicting images of unhealthily thin models and a constant stream of advertising for cheap and easily accessible fast food.
The part that really resonated for me was the "You eat to celebrate a goal. You eat when you miss a goal and you are consoling yourself. And everyone around you knows that you like food, so give you food-gifts."
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Old 11-02-2014, 06:44 PM   #147
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For a guy like Lorenzen and a lot of other obese people, they are well aware of their weight. They feel it every day. Calling them "fat" doesn't address the underlying issues. Lorenzen's food addiction ended his career and cost him millions of dollars. People need support instead of labels.
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Old 11-02-2014, 07:26 PM   #148
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For a guy like Lorenzen and a lot of other obese people, they are well aware of their weight. They feel it every day. Calling them "fat" doesn't address the underlying issues. Lorenzen's food addiction ended his career and cost him millions of dollars. People need support instead of labels.

But calling his "plus-sized" doesn't make it any less true. Are you suggesting that Jared Lorenzen, who played SEC and professional football didn't have support? Please, if that dude couldn't get in shape and his excuse is "people called me fat" you are kidding yourself.
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Old 11-02-2014, 07:39 PM   #149
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My point is that calling him "fat" hasn't been the decisive turning point to make him change. It was in response to taco vidal's post about how obese people often don't know how obese they are. Lorenzen was ridiculed by the media for for his weight for most of his playing career. He knows that he is obese...It didn't change anything. He is addicted to food and needs to deal with that and the underlying issues surrounding his addiction.

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