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Old 06-12-2014, 04:14 PM   #141
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True.
I hereby apply to change my example from "puff a cigar" to "Poof! I'm gone!"
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Old 06-12-2014, 04:15 PM   #142
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I was pretty indifferent about this and thought it was silly as I've never viewed the term "Redskins" as derogatory in any way. But then a friend pointed out what if there was a team called the San Francisco Chinks? Yah, that would probably piss me off, so I'm pretty sold now.

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No as in one time a friend and I got on the bus, and some punks yelled at us that the bus suddenly got nippy. We're not even Japanese damnit.
Racism part aside, as an Asian I can't even tell us apart sometimes, haha...

On a semi-related note, several years ago I went to a Stampede party hosted by one of our vendors in which they randomly handed out name tags with various old west themed nicknames on it like "Cottonmouth", "Tumbleweed", and etc. I ended up with "Yellow-Belly", so I go to the event host (jokingly), "Are you sure these are handed out randomly?". Needless to say, my 4 drink tickets suddenly became unlimited.
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Old 06-18-2014, 09:35 AM   #143
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Big news on this story today:

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The United States Patent and Trademark Office has canceled the Washington Redskins trademark registration, calling the football team’s name “disparaging to Native Americans.”
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The ruling does not mean that the Redskins have to change the name of the team. It does affect whether the team and the NFL can make money from merchandising because it limits the team’s legal options when others use the logos and the name on T shirts, sweatshirts, beer glasses and license plate holders.

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In addition, Native Americans have won at this stage before, in 1999. But the team and the NFL won an appeal to U.S. District Court in 2009. The court did not rule on the merits of the case, however, but threw it out, saying that the plaintiffs didn’t have standing to file it. The team is likely to make the same appeal this time. Team officials are expected to make a statement this morning.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...789_story.html

I really hope the NFL doesn't appeal.
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Old 06-18-2014, 09:50 AM   #145
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I'd love to have a hat that has stereotypical english guy with bad teeth. The London "Limeys?"
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That is one way to do it.

I would much rather the social pressure force him to change, rather than a 'legal loophole' though, so it doesn't become a racist rallying point.
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That is one way to do it.

I would much rather the social pressure force him to change, rather than a 'legal loophole' though, so it doesn't become a racist rallying point.
There is very little actual pressure in the US for the Redskins to change their name, and vastly more support for them keeping the name. The Obama administration trademark thing, a sideshow to distract Americans from other, more important issues Obama should be grilled on.
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Old 06-18-2014, 09:56 AM   #148
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There is very little actual pressure in the US for the Redskins to change their name, and vastly more support for them keeping the name. The Obama administration trademark thing, a sideshow to distract Americans from other, more important issues Obama should be grilled on.
Is this actually supported by any sort of stats or did you just make it up on the spot?
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Is this actually supported by any sort of stats or did you just make it up on the spot?
It comes from actually knowing about the issue at hand. You can actually go to any NFL forum and surely can find polls on the matter, and if you really do want to know how they think, can Google polls yourself, but sure I'll do some of the work for you:

http://www.debate.org/opinions/shoul...nge-their-name
69% No (Don't change the name)

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...lling/4297665/
71% No

It's not even close.

I need not go on. The only loud noises about it come from the media, and from the Obama administration wishing to deflect attention, especially negative attention, away from itself.
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Old 06-18-2014, 10:02 AM   #150
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Am I supposed to be impressed with your imagination to draw up increasingly ridiculous allegories to this issue at hand?
Why would you assume, that impressing you, is anyone's goal on this board?
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Of course, Obama. That makes the most sense.

It's a good first step to forcing Snyder to change the racist team name. Was it this difficult to change Bullets to Wizards?
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Of course, Obama. That makes the most sense.

It's a good first step to forcing Snyder to change the racist team name. Was it this difficult to change Bullets to Wizards?
I don't see how that's any better. The Bullets were a fine name. Political correctness was not. And if you read the article, this sort of thing with the Redskins and patents has been attempted before, unsuccessfully. Thankfully it will continue to be so for the foreseeable future.

It's getting really infuriating how much people are rolling over for political correctness.
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It comes from actually knowing about the issue at hand. You can actually go to any NFL forum and surely can find polls on the matter, and if you really do want to know how they think, can Google polls yourself, but sure I'll do some of the work for you:

http://www.debate.org/opinions/shoul...nge-their-name
69% No (Don't change the name)

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...lling/4297665/
71% No

It's not even close.
Did you really just link to online web polls as if they have any shred of credibility whatsoever? Does that mean Kevin Lowe really does have an A+ rating in the eyes of Oilers fans?
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I don't see how that's any better. The Bullets were a fine name. Political correctness was not. And if you read the article, this sort of thing with the Redskins and patents has been attempted before, unsuccessfully. Thankfully it will continue to be so for the foreseeable future.

It's getting really infuriating how much people are rolling over for political correctness.
I know right? Uppity redmen, we already gave you a bunch of land and you don't have to pay taxes, now we have to change sports team names too? Why? We don't think it's offensive so it doesn't matter what you think. Typical political correctness liberal whiners.
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Redskins being pressured to change their name?

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Big win for American right wingers, based off what I'm seeing on Twitter this is a Benghazi level scandal. So something new to lose their #### over
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It comes from actually knowing about the issue at hand. You can actually go to any NFL forum and surely can find polls on the matter, and if you really do want to know how they think, can Google polls yourself, but sure I'll do some of the work for you:

http://www.debate.org/opinions/shoul...nge-their-name
69% No (Don't change the name)

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...lling/4297665/
71% No

It's not even close.

I need not go on. The only loud noises about it come from the media, and from the Obama administration wishing to deflect attention, especially negative attention, away from itself.
I wouldn't consider 30% support for a name change to be very little, but that might just be me.

I love the Obama blaming though, that's funny
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I need not go on. The only loud noises about it come from the media, and from the Obama administration wishing to deflect attention, especially negative attention, away from itself.
What the holy heck does this have to do with Obama?
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Everything is Obama's fault. Directly. It's amazing how efficient the man is with his time, fingers in every pie.
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I wouldn't consider 30% support for a name change to be very little, but that might just be me.

I love the Obama blaming though, that's funny
That's about the same as it was 20 years ago, fluctuating some 5-10 points based on current political movements. The point of me mentioning that was because you were talking about social change, and there is no real social movement in the states, especially within the league, or from the fans of any NFL team (never mind their own fans), to change their name. It's just a lot of noise from the media, and the Obama administration trying to divert attention away from the increasing amount of Americans pissed off at his domestic and foreign policies.

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Everything is Obama's fault. Directly. It's amazing how efficient the man is with his time, fingers in every pie.
And this is a typical American leftist response to criticism of Obama.

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What the holy heck does this have to do with Obama?
Read the article at all? Any part about the US Office of Patents & Trademarks? Who runs that again? Oh yeah..
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