Dreger: Kiprusoff to not move, retire at end of the season

[trackercowe]

Originally Posted by _Q_

Don't care about any of these player's feelings. Don't care for our supposed "star" goalie mailing in the rest of the season. Don't care for Kipper's family issues that everyone in the world has to deal with and still go in and do an honest day of work. Don't care about his legacy. Don't care for him to retire as a Flame. Even a 6th round pick is better than nothing.

Damn I'm bitter about this news. Thank God this will be his last season. So long and good riddance.

Absolutely disgraceful. Bitter for bitterness sake.

[JazzyFlame]

Originally Posted by Bourque's Twin

Without Kipper this team would have not made the cup in 04, would not have won the division after the lockout, and would not have stayed competitive after that.

He saved this franchise. I don't have time to lookup stats but he probably played more games than any other goalie in the league post-lockout (04/05)... He's 23rd all-time in wins. He's the only Flame to win the Vezina.

That's a guy who's jersey you retire and that's a guy who all Flames fans should respect. Sure, he should've been traded when his value was high, but that didn't happen. Let's all be thankful Sutter got him in the first place. Let him retire on his own terms, as a Calgary Flame.

He was payed to do that, he sure did'nt do it for free or as a favor.

Do you get special perks for doing your job at work?

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Muta

This guy has no contractual rights to reject trades. Really puts the Flames in a bad position. This should be nice and awkward from here on in.

I'm betting the only people who care are those fans with a massive sense of entitlement.

One thing Feaster showed with the Iginla trade is that he wants to do right by those long-term, core players. Kipper is one. I think the organization is quite fine with the idea of Kiprusoff finishing the season then fading off into the sunset.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by Bmuzyka

Dumb? You tell that to the thousands of worker up in Fort Mac living in Camp away from their families. They are willing to do it to pay bills and provide for their families.

Oh lord, won't someone please think of the 20-somethings who make 100K+ and go bang hookers and snort coke up their nose in their spare time! Woah is them.

Money is always relative. There are lot of people in this world for whom 30k is an unattainable dream in the same way Kipper's salary is to us. At the end of the day, Kipper has the power to side with his family. We don't all have that choice, but if he does and and exercises that, good on him. I would absolutely do the same.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by JazzyFlame

Should have signed a more conservative contract then.

Kiprusoff is within his rights to decide to retire and to forego compensation from his contract. You and many other posters here seem to be confused about how contracts work.

[theConstant]

When Kipper signed this deal we all anticipated something of this manner happening near or at the end of it. No problem with it.

[JazzyFlame]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

If it's a business then the Flames shouldn't have given him such a contract.
Perhaps there was a wink-wink nudge-nudge when the contract was signed that Kipper was going to retire after this year.

If that's the case then it's the Flames that are wronging Kipper by trying to trade him at all.

We don't know.

Perhaps, but a contract is a legal obligation and it exisits. So the legal and business part of it stands.

[AltaGuy]

This "announcement" makes me wonder if this was the plan all along?

So Flames brass knows Kipper will retire end of 2013 season. Management, ownership, they all know this. Iggy is signed here for the same amount of time.

Maybe going back even five or six seasons, this year was always going to be the year they ditched win now for a rebuild.

We picked up Ramo last year, who could possibly be our goalie next year, but not this year. Perhaps O'Reilly was really part of a rebuild, not a part of win now (although he functions in both capacities).

I do not know whether I'm right about this, but if I am, it could explain why we didn't do this two, three years ago. While the Flames had a franchise goalie and franchise forward, we were in win now - and the brass knew the expiry date on these players, and prepared accordingly.

Food for thought, anyway. That would be one seriously long-term plan. And not necessarily a wise one either.

[The Yen Man]

I distinctly remember people being pretty happy about the front loaded contract, because of this specific reason. By the $1.5M year, everyone wanted Kipper retired so that his artificial cap hit of $5.8M is off the books. Meanwhile, the team takes advantage of the cap friendly hit for the majority of the contract.

Now we're heading into that final year, and he's doing exactly what people wanted, and some posters here are whining about it.

[Bourque's Twin]

Originally Posted by JazzyFlame

He was payed to do that, he sure did'nt do it for free or as a favor.

Do you get special perks for doing your job at work?

If I do a good job, yes.

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by JazzyFlame

And neither do we as fans.



I could careless if he retires a Flame, actually I would rather he not if that meant we get something in return.

You could care less? How much less could you care? A lot? That would suggest that you care a lot if he retires a Flame. Or just a very little amount, then that would suggest that you do not care very much if he retires a Flame.

I think you may have meant that you could not care less if he retires a Flame, as this means you do not care at all, but I don't want to put words in your mouth...

[Yes, I acknowledge this does not help the thread, but I really wanted to know how much he cares...]

[JazzyFlame]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Kiprusoff is within his rights to decide to retire and to forego compensation from his contract. You and many other posters here seem to be confused about how contracts work.

Oh, completely. He's just dishonorable in doing so.

Good riddance and bench him.

[Cole436]

Originally Posted by JazzyFlame

He's earned a salary and not any rights.

What a stupid thing to say. Hockey is much more than a business, and Kiprusoff has earned his choice by being the heart and backbone of this franchise for 10 years.

[Poe969]

mods should start a poll: Are you for it or against it

[H2SO4(aq)]

Originally Posted by Cole436

When did our franchise move north and start calling themselves the Oilers?

Get a grip on yourselves. Kiprusoff has more than earned the right to walk away on his own accord.

When did the flames have no backbone? Souray pulled a similar stunt with the oil, the oil sent him to the minors.

the only reason i want to keep kipper is because his bs uninspired play will all but guarantee us a top 2 pick.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

I'm betting the only people who care are those fans with a massive sense of entitlement.

Huh?

Management wouldn't be doing their job if they didn't care what they got back from players. This is why the whole "trade Kipper" bonanza probably started to begin with.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by JazzyFlame

Perhaps, but a contract is a legal obligation and it exisits. So the legal and business part of it stands.

Yes and he can legally retire.

[_Q_]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

Absolutely disgraceful. Bitter for bitterness sake.

No it's absolutely not disgraceful.

I'm a Flames fan first and foremost. Kiprusoff screwed my favorite team over. Waive his sorry ass. Send him to Abby and let him deal with his family issues from there.

There is nobody bigger than the franchise. Especially not a primadona like Miika.

[moon]

Sucks that we can't get anything for him.

LOL at the people overreacting to some people wishing we could have got something for him.

The race to be the first person to post made up outrage at things that aren't said during the rebuild trying to paint people as awful fans has become fun to watch.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

If he wanted to reject trades then he should have asked for a no-trade until the end of the contract.

He can't reject trades. He does have the right to retire.

Your comment is as stupid as if you tried to quit your current job and your boss refused to let you. Somehow I don't think you'd slink back to your desk or cash register without comment.