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Old 12-17-2024, 06:37 PM   #15821
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At this point this thread is worse than that time Grandma got dysentery on the Oregon Trail!
Did she apply for MAID?
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Old 12-17-2024, 06:39 PM   #15822
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Did she apply for MAID?
No need. Dysentery on its own is rather efficient.

Besides, she wouldn't have made it to the nearest Hospital and with the state of American Health Care at the time? Dying alone in the woods would have been a mercy
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Old 12-17-2024, 06:42 PM   #15823
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I hate to bust the budget bubble talk but let's be honest, the people in charge and associated cronies are stuffing their pockets and their bank accounts very well with our money.

This isn't just some sort of Liberal federal thing either, this is across the board in Canada. The level of corruption is off the charts and it's evident to anybody who has a logical brain. The difference between 3rd world countries corruption and G7 nation's is that the economy usually able to hide the fraud a little better.

Considering how far Canada has fallen economically under Trudeau, it's becoming more evident. Blowing through a balanced budget to the tune $60+ billion when there is not an official rescission is mind boggling. Where is all this money going? World class healthcare access? top notch military and security spending?, roads, transit, rail, airports and more transportation?

We are being taken advantage of and the lifestyle isn't making up for it to the degree it used to which is why everybody is pissed.
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Old 12-17-2024, 07:08 PM   #15824
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You’re not gonna flip flop on all of that 6 hours from now are you curves?
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Old 12-17-2024, 07:10 PM   #15825
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The government and the left are out to get us. It’s all a conspiracy!
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Old 12-17-2024, 07:13 PM   #15826
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Well that's actually true. On the other hand, the right is out to get us too, only they want to take us out by banning vaccines and modern medical care, so we'll have time to give us all our money before we die.
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Old 12-17-2024, 07:57 PM   #15827
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Quite the interview.

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Old 12-17-2024, 08:17 PM   #15828
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So, what are we looking at here? A later Friday afternoon presser for Trudeau to resign and hope that everyone kind of forgets as we go through the holidays?
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Old 12-17-2024, 08:22 PM   #15829
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That's actually a surprisingly refreshing interview from a politician. Great watch. He's doing something that democracy needs more of, which is to break ranks when the team can no longer support their captain. I think a few other parties in Canada could learn from this guy too.
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Old 12-17-2024, 08:32 PM   #15830
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The Abacus guy was on CTV earlier. Take the numbers with a grain of salt because Abacus generally has the CPC higher than other pollsters by a few points but the numbers are pretty overwhelming.

Top line numbers
CPC 45%
LIB 20%
NDP 18%
BQ 8%
GRN 4%
PPC 4%
A 25 point gap and he said that among voters most likely to vote it becomes a 30 point gap.

58% of Canadians want an election now
23% do not want an election
15% don't know
4% don't care
Usually most Canadians never want an election.

Should Trudeau resign?
19% he should stay
67% he should resign
14% don't know

Pretty crazy numbers.
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Old 12-17-2024, 08:49 PM   #15831
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I can’t see there being any other outcome than a landslide conservative victory. Don’t think you have to worry.

If Trudeau strings it out until Oct they’ll be running mulroney 1993 territory. Party status gone.
Yes if Trudeau strings it out I absolutely agree with you. But look at what Danielle Smith did in replacing Kenny. The conservative Boogeymen voters will comeback to the liberals with a new leader.
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Old 12-17-2024, 08:58 PM   #15832
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Yeah it's pretty clear that a Liberal leadership replacement is not the preferred play for the CPC. Fence-sitting Libs may swing back. Not enough to change the tides, but maybe not hand them a supermajority.
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Old 12-17-2024, 09:19 PM   #15833
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The Abacus guy was on CTV earlier. Take the numbers with a grain of salt because Abacus generally has the CPC higher than other pollsters by a few points but the numbers are pretty overwhelming.

Top line numbers
CPC 45%
LIB 20%
NDP 18%
BQ 8%
GRN 4%
PPC 4%
A 25 point gap and he said that among voters most likely to vote it becomes a 30 point gap.

58% of Canadians want an election now
23% do not want an election
15% don't know
4% don't care
Usually most Canadians never want an election.

Should Trudeau resign?
19% he should stay
67% he should resign
14% don't know

Pretty crazy numbers.
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Old 12-17-2024, 09:25 PM   #15834
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Yes if Trudeau strings it out I absolutely agree with you. But look at what Danielle Smith did in replacing Kenny. The conservative Boogeymen voters will comeback to the liberals with a new leader.
The “I’m voting NDP unless it’s between the Liberals and Conservatives in which case I’m voting Liberal!” voters would as well, of which it always feels like there are many.
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The “I’m voting NDP unless it’s between the Liberals and Conservatives in which case I’m voting Liberal!” voters would as well, of which it always feels like there are many.
You being one of those voters. Not a shot, it’s just how you vote. Trying to make your vote count.
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Old 12-17-2024, 09:37 PM   #15836
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That's actually a surprisingly refreshing interview from a politician. Great watch. He's doing something that democracy needs more of, which is to break ranks when the team can no longer support their captain. I think a few other parties in Canada could learn from this guy too.
Not supporting that leader is a very low bar. I agree, it’s refreshing, but let’s not pretend it’s not long overdue.
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So, what are we looking at here? A later Friday afternoon presser for Trudeau to resign and hope that everyone kind of forgets as we go through the holidays?
He just needs to go for a walk in the snow, then the circle will be complete.
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Yeah it's pretty clear that a Liberal leadership replacement is not the preferred play for the CPC. Fence-sitting Libs may swing back. Not enough to change the tides, but maybe not hand them a supermajority.
What’s really odd is the NDP calling for a Liberal leadership change. (Or else, they might do something as opposed to nothing.
Maybe. ).

I agree that a leadership change doesn’t necessarily help the CPC, but I can’t imagine how it helps the NDP. Why would Singh come out and publicly say Justin Trudeau has to be removed from leader of the Liberals, but won’t vote against him in a non confidence motion? He has had the opportunity (many times) to distance himself from the Liberals, but keep propping them up. How does that help the NDP in the next election?

It’s like Jagmeet only opens his mouth to change feet.
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You being one of those voters. Not a shot, it’s just how you vote. Trying to make your vote count.
No I don’t.
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No I don’t.
Voting Jagmeet no matter what? Yikes.
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