Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[Azure]

Also, a government that spends a $40b deficit during COVID is completely different from a government where the finance minister resigns, a complete duncehead is made the new finance minister, and at the same time they pull a 'oopsie we blew past budget expectations by $20b, our bad', dozens of party members are calling for the PM to design all while literally trying to turn the entire thing into a political charade that not even the dumbest Liberal supporter should think is acceptable. Though there are a few Trudeau worshippers on here that make a run for it.

But maybe its just me, and I expect the government to actually take spending our money a little more seriously.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by GGG

Why do you use the deficit as the denominator? This is a 8 billion dollar change on a 450 billion dollar budget. So these are .5% -2% changes in the budget forecasts.

Also roughly half of those changes are spending the other half is the revenue side.

Because I am calculating the % change, or miss, in the deficit which is an absolute measure. Deficit is the difference between revenue and expenses and is reported as such by the government. Deficit as a percentage of revenue is a different metric and the % change is different. You want to start talking about deficit as a percentage because it apparently looks less worse.

[2Stonedbirds]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Because those people aren’t capable of controlling the conversation like they want to or assert the kind of intellectual dominance that plays out in their imagination, so whether to influence others or as an expression of their own delusion, it’s preferable to them to believe that everyone who disagrees with them is having a mental breakdown instead of the reality, which is that they don’t have the social or intellectual capability to disagree with people normally.

It’s the same reason why certain people re-categorize criticisms they receive as people being “triggered.” It’s not their short comings, ever. It’s always everyone else’s problem or everyone else’s shortcomings that causes it. These are the same kinds of people that will tell you a story about a confrontation they had, but in this story, all the things they wish they said or thought of later are told as if they were said in the moment, “and then everyone clapped.”

Dr Phil here with the projection psychoanalysis is the delusional gift that keeps on giving.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds

Dr Phil here with the projection psychoanalysis is the delusional gift that keeps on giving.

Oh no, I’m being psychoanalyzed by the guy who married his first cousin. Heaven help me.

[2Stonedbirds]

I can appreciate how hard the last 24 hrs or so have been for you.
Feel free to lash out more if it helps to serve your utterly broken mental position.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Would it have been more feminist or less feminist to just drop her completely?

Your usual retort doesn't deserve a reply but because this former Liberal MP under Trudeau summed things up so well I'll post it in relation to your witty remark:

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.6594207

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by GGG

Given the current composition of Canada a Conservative minority government where the NDP/Liberals hold the balance of power will end up as a failed conservative minority with a liberal/NDP government taking over. If the Bloc hold the balance of power we get a conservative minority propped up with payments to Quebec.

The parties will vote based on the probability of their desired outcomes. While we are in conservative majority territory the NDP and Bloc don’t want an election.

I can’t see there being any other outcome than a landslide conservative victory. Don’t think you have to worry.

If Trudeau strings it out until Oct they’ll be running mulroney 1993 territory. Party status gone.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds

I can appreciate how hard the last 24 hrs or so have been for you.
Feel free to lash out more if it helps to serve your utterly broken mental position.

Ah, so you’re just upset because my Dr Phil cosplay hit a little too close to home.

I get it man. Everyone else is triggered. Everyone is having a breakdown. Everyone clap.

[2Stonedbirds]

Can't see how this doesn't help anyone other than the bloc.
NDP isn't exactly a strong alternative for those wanting to differentiate from the LPC status quo. Those people if not already voting for the CPC aren't going to change course now.
Bloc is gonna demolish Quebec when Singh decides we can have an election.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Your usual retort doesn't deserve a reply but because this former Liberal MP under Trudeau summed things up so well I'll post it in relation to your witty remark:

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.6594207

It wasn’t a difficult question.

[2Stonedbirds]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Ah, so you’re just upset because my Dr Phil cosplay hit a little too close to home.

I get it man. Everyone else is triggered. Everyone is having a breakdown. Everyone clap.

Supporting the LPC after all this time is the ultimate cosplay.

The applause is reserved for the wilfully ignorant. Bask, young nescient.

[Patek23]

Ultimately its an additional 700 bucks per tax paying Canadian. Call it 5% more spending than budgeted or an additional 50% over the guard rail its not a nothing burger amount of money with no effect. The average Canadian is fed up with the errant waste of their tax dollars and shouldnt be ridiculed for being upset the Liberals missed their own over spending guard rail.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds

Supporting the LPC after all this time is the ultimate cosplay.

The applause is reserved for the wilfully ignorant. Bask, young nescient.

Who is supporting the LPC? Are they in the room with you right now?

[curves2000]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Your usual retort doesn't deserve a reply but because this former Liberal MP under Trudeau summed things up so well I'll post it in relation to your witty remark:

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.6594207

Did people actual think that Trudeau was a feminist? I thought that was some running joke or something. The man's body count for women in politics needs to be investigated. He literally has thrown them under the bus and ran them over.

Quite possibly the most ruthless, least women friendly, abuser that has ever lead this country or a province.

[2Stonedbirds]

Originally Posted by curves2000

Did people actual think that Trudeau was a feminist? I thought that was some running joke or something. The man's body count for women in politics needs to be investigated. He literally has thrown them under the bus and ran them over.

Quite possibly the most ruthless, least women friendly, abuser that has ever lead this country or a province.

Ahhh, but its not what you do, it's what you say.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Azure

Also, a government that spends a $40b deficit during COVID is completely different from a government where the finance minister resigns, a complete duncehead is made the new finance minister, and at the same time they pull a 'oopsie we blew past budget expectations by $20b, our bad', dozens of party members are calling for the PM to design all while literally trying to turn the entire thing into a political charade that not even the dumbest Liberal supporter should think is acceptable. Though there are a few Trudeau worshippers on here that make a run for it.

But maybe its just me, and I expect the government to actually take spending our money a little more seriously.

Don’t worry. They’ll just print more money. Or add a tax on breathing.

Problem solved

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by simmer2

Planning for a bad outcome, and then achieving a more bad outcome but that it's within +/- 5% of bad is still BAD!!!

How it can be considered acceptable is beyond my ability to comprehend.

When it’s not your money it’s more acceptable

[2Stonedbirds]

The best part is being able to turn and point your finger at the absolute mess of affairs when conservatives run you out of the building.
The last 8 or so years of precedence will be but a memory!

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by curves2000

Did people actual think that Trudeau was a feminist? I thought that was some running joke or something. The man's body count for women in politics needs to be investigated. He literally has thrown them under the bus and ran them over.

Quite possibly the most ruthless, least women friendly, abuser that has ever lead this country or a province.

Whether or not anyone really bought into it is the question but he consistently sold himself as a major feminist. It was part of his leadership campaign, it was a driving factor in his most diverse cabinet and he just recently talked about how is a proud feminist when making a speech about Harris' defeat by Trump. He is a fraud and populist who knows how to sell himself for personal gain.

[Locke]

At this point this thread is worse than that time Grandma got dysentery on the Oregon Trail!