2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by really?

The Flames received a bounty for Tkachuk. Imagine what the deal would have looked like if they taken Huberdeau and Weber to market instead of resigning them. The problem wasn’t the deal, but rather the team’s intentions in the deal. Clearly the intent was to compete now, and that has obviously didn’t work out.

The way most sports are organized today, sometimes you have to lose to win. That doesn’t require a tank, but moving future assets for middling players in an effort to bolster mediocrity isn’t noble or committed, it’s counterproductive if the actual goal is to win a cup.

I don’t doubt that every member of the organization has winning cups as their ultimate goal, I just don’t see them having the patience to actually get it done.

I doubt it's a not question of having patience.

It's more a question of needing to keep bums in the seats.

[Funkhouser]

Originally Posted by really?

The Flames received a bounty for Tkachuk. Imagine what the deal would have looked like if they taken Huberdeau and Weber to market instead of resigning them. The problem wasn’t the deal, but rather the team’s intentions in the deal. Clearly the intent was to compete now, and that has obviously didn’t work out.

The way most sports are organized today, sometimes you have to lose to win. That doesn’t require a tank, but moving future assets for middling players in an effort to bolster mediocrity isn’t noble or committed, it’s counterproductive if the actual goal is to win a cup.

I don’t doubt that every member of the organization has winning cups as their ultimate goal, I just don’t see them having the patience to actually get it done.

Realistically, what could Huberdeau have gotten on the open market that summer?

Cheap salary, 1 year from UFA, coming off a record-setting season.

You'd have to think he could have gotten at minimum a first and a strong prospect.

[really?]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

I doubt it's a not question of having patience.

It's more a question of needing to keep bums in the seats.

Probably true, but that is part of patience. If ownership isn’t willing to take that risk, and possibly bite a bullet, then life as a Flames fan probably looks the same 20 years from now as it has the last 20 years.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

Maybe it was just speculation on CP as Thomas was an unsigned RFA, but most posters would not have done it at the time.

Kyrou and Thomas were both pure speculation, that some then misunderstood to be legit rumors.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

There was also a rumor of Kyrou, Krug and a 1st.

Stl had 23rd pick and took Snuggerud. Yurov, Kulich, Lambert, Bystedt were on the board as well.

Again Kyrou wasn't a real rumor. It was pure speculation.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

So weird why the Blues didn't go all-in given the fit. He would have been an even bigger star in that city. That said looking back on things I'm not sure if they are better today with Tkachuk over Thomas.

Thomas I think I understand not wanting to move, as I think indeed they saw Tkachuk and Thomas as the pairing they wanted to create.
But they should have offered something around Kyrou.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Royle9

If your name ends in Wolf, Coronato or Parekh you're not going anywhere In terms of veterans, Kadri & Weegar also not going anywhere Not giving up premium assets for minimal upgrades
2026/27 1st round pick off the table Huberdeau's contract makes him pretty much untradeable I'll add that Backlunds loyalty to Calgary is not lost on Craig, but if he wants to move on for a cup then he controls his fate

Anything else can be had for a price.

Pretty much what someone would expect really. Basically that leaves Rasmus as the one asset available for (presumably) a notable return. Everyone else they either won't move, can't move, or or if they did move the return would be middling at best.

Originally Posted by really?

moving future assets for middling players in an effort to bolster mediocrity.

It's the Calgary Flames way. Every once in a while someone asks them what the goal is and I frown when the answer is inevitably "make the playoffs" the answer should be "win the Stanley Cup". Always feels like they strive for "good enough" when they should be striving for greatness.

[Jiri Hrdina]

I love hearing that 2026/2027 1sts are off the table. Good.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Let's put it this way for Calgary in terms of interest from what I've been told:

If the player is under 25
Cost controlled preferred
RFA is tempting
C is the position of biggest need
LD is a high priority
Immediate help to make the team better
UFA list is extremely small, almost non-existent

Then you can assume that Craig and the team are investigating all options.
There's a few names I've heard in Rossi, Peterka and Byram, but I could see McTavish and some other high profile names be on that as well.

In terms of cost, the following willy apply:

If your name ends in Wolf, Coronato or Parekh you're not going anywhere
In terms of veterans, Kadri & Weegar also not going anywhere
Not giving up premium assets for minimal upgrades
2026/27 1st round pick off the table
Huberdeau's contract makes him pretty much untradeable
I'll add that Backlunds loyalty to Calgary is not lost on Craig, but if he wants to move on for a cup then he controls his fate

Anything else can be had for a price.

Music to my ears.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Kyrou and Thomas were both pure speculation, that some then misunderstood to be legit rumors.

It was like how Markstrom got spun up to be Mercer

[Badgers Nose]

Thanks Royle9 that's a heck of a lot of info. Gives us speculators lots to chew on.

Matches my dream scenario for the team too. No more incoming expensive old guys.

[Fan69]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Let's put it this way for Calgary in terms of interest from what I've been told:

If the player is under 25
Cost controlled preferred
RFA is tempting
C is the position of biggest need
LD is a high priority
Immediate help to make the team better
UFA list is extremely small, almost non-existent

Then you can assume that Craig and the team are investigating all options.
There's a few names I've heard in Rossi, Peterka and Byram, but I could see McTavish and some other high profile names be on that as well.

In terms of cost, the following willy apply:

If your name ends in Wolf, Coronato or Parekh you're not going anywhere
In terms of veterans, Kadri & Weegar also not going anywhere
Not giving up premium assets for minimal upgrades
2026/27 1st round pick off the table
Huberdeau's contract makes him pretty much untradeable
I'll add that Backlunds loyalty to Calgary is not lost on Craig, but if he wants to move on for a cup then he controls his fate

Anything else can be had for a price.

Appreciate the info Royle!


I have said on a few occasions if anyone want a trade with calgary package up a center and its probably done.

What i find interesting is it lays out some if the reality for us. Kadri wont be traded, Huby cant be traded, Coleman i believe had negligible value, Andersson is realistically the most valuable piece we have left that will garner a net return and trading him to me kind of signals the end of the rebuild from a practical perspective.

Only other guy that might draw interest is pospisil as an energy guy but again what could you realistically expect in return? Maybe a second?


We have a lot of assets that could go toward a center desl and it sounds like the team is on board.

Unless

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Parallex

Pretty much what someone would expect really. Basically that leaves Rasmus as the one asset available for (presumably) a notable return. Everyone else they either won't move, can't move, or or if they did move the return would be middling at best.



It's the Calgary Flames way. Every once in a while someone asks them what the goal is and I frown when the answer is inevitably "make the playoffs" the answer should be "win the Stanley Cup". Always feels like they strive for "good enough" when they should be striving for greatness.

What's the address you want your grease pig jersey delivered to?

We have what we have. Flames are not changing so maybe you should?

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Parallex

Pretty much what someone would expect really. Basically that leaves Rasmus as the one asset available for (presumably) a notable return. Everyone else they either won't move, can't move, or or if they did move the return would be middling at best.

It's the Calgary Flames way. Every once in a while someone asks them what the goal is and I frown when the answer is inevitably "make the playoffs" the answer should be "win the Stanley Cup". Always feels like they strive for "good enough" when they should be striving for greatness.

Conroy did his best to get a top 5 pick this year. I still got faith he is aiming higher than making the playoffs

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Bonded

It was like how Markstrom got spun up to be Mercer

Yep and if you tried to bring logic and reason into the conversation you got mauled because people started to believe their own rumors and wanted it to be true so badly.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I love hearing that 2026/2027 1sts are off the table. Good.

Yeah that doesn't suggest a team that think they are firmly in the playoff mix in the next two years.

[Toonage]

No mention of the 2025 picks which is interesting

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Conroy did his best to get a top 5 pick this year. I still got faith he is aiming higher than making the playoffs

He'll need to start making some bigger gambles if that's the case. I don't see a Stanley Cup favorite core here right now so he's gonna need to connect on some all-or-nothing home-run cuts.

I mean unless Dustin Wolf is a flash in the pan (I don't think he is) or has a sophmore slump (no reason to think he will) surefire star level core players aren't coming from the draft, they're hard to get in trade, and cost a fortune on the free agent market if you can convince them to sign. So he's gonna need to get lucky somewhere.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Parallex

He'll need to start making some bigger gambles if that's the case. I don't see a Stanley Cup favorite core here right now so he's gonna need to connect on some all-or-nothing home-run cuts.

I mean unless Dustin Wolf is a flash in the pan (I don't think he is) or has a sophmore slump (no reason to think he will) surefire star level core players aren't coming from the draft, they're hard to get in trade, and cost a fortune on the free agent market if you can convince them to sign. So he's gonna need to get lucky somewhere.

The requirement of luck is really no different than it is for any other team.

Not even #1 overalls are surefire star level core players. If you expect the impossible you’re just trying to disappoint yourself.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by really?

Probably true, but that is part of patience. If ownership isn’t willing to take that risk, and possibly bite a bullet, then life as a Flames fan probably looks the same 20 years from now as it has the last 20 years.

Calagry will always, under present ownership, try to win as many games as possible each year.

Conroy is at least being allowed to trade UFA's to be before they become UFA's, and being allowed to target younger players.

If that thought process was allowed to exist back at the time of the Tkachuk trade, perhaps the Necas trade would have been favoured.