2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Rutuu]

Originally Posted by traptor

Thats not true, I believe you can win without top 3 picks. I believe the chances of getting those truly elite players like ala a Barkov is way higher in those top few picks. I also believe you need a couple of those caliber of players to win. But you can get them elsewhere it's just harder.

The flames aren't tanking so there's no point on dwelling on it. Maybe they'll luck into one through the lottery but that's just random luck.


Since they're not tanking for a top pick they're going to have to take swings elsewhere. I dont see why Rossi couldn't be an elite player. Hes 23 and put up 60 pts.

I agree, i dont think it's crazy to think Zary could hit 80 points one day.

We're not tanking purposefully...there's a difference.

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Listening to the morning show today a lot of the talk was about the Hurricanes being a bit of a soft team but also how essentially they have a ton of cap space and no big contracts to deal with. I have been thinking if they could be the team who would throw $10M at Sam Bennett (if we believe the rumor a team is going to offer that)? Not sure why Benny would turn that down? Massive cash from a contender.


I also feel like both the Flames and Hurricanes would love to go back in time and redo the Tkachuk trade. The Canes should have caved to the Flames ask and the Flames should have pursued the rebuild type deal around Necas++. Hurricanes have been chasing a superstar for years and probably look back at their chance to get Tkachuk and regret not closing that deal. The Flames being in a retool would be better off with the mid-20’s Necas and other assets over the early 30’s Huberdeau and Weegar.

Necas, Jarvis, Kyrou, Thomas, any of those guys would have been a nice target for Tkachuk.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Flames talk this afternoon also mentioned both Rossi and Bryam as targets, said Calgary will hunt for bigger fish and not UFAs.

But what bigger fish are out there? Especially bigger fish that are available for trade and don’t have Calgary on their no trade list.

Forget bigger fish, sounds like they are hunting for a unicorn.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Hackey

Necas, Jarvis, Kyrou, Thomas, any of those guys would have been a nice target for Tkachuk.

The Blues offer is known and it didn’t include either of those guys
The Canes also didn’t offer Jarvis

[LIP MAN]

Just keep our picks and trade out players. Should have next years draft to go higher.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

I meant before the 1st injury. And I wasn't referring to the season-to-date, but to a stretch of games where he was given opportunity and started producing at a fairly prolific rate. IIRC, when he was playing with Kadri and Pospisil.

50/50? I have 50/50 for 2nd line or better stoping after the top 5 picks.

2004-2018 I have picks 6 - 10 as follows

75 players taken

Q Hughes
M Tkachuk
Rantanen
Scheiefle
Werenski
Nylander
Keller
Zibanejad
Sergachev
Bouchard
Brassard
Okposo
Voracek
Couture
Kadri
Ekman Larson
J Skinner
M Granlund
Brodin
H Lindholm
Dumba
Trouba
Monahan
Horvat
Nichuskin
Meier
Ehlers

Half the guys listed are no better than Rossi is so far and that is 27/75 - 36%.

Thats picks 6-10 OV not a late 1st outside the top 30.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

The Blues offer is known and it didn’t include either of those guys
The Canes also didn’t offer Jarvis

I recall arguing with many posters about the Blues offer. I would have taken the 1st and Thomas and most disagreed. That would have worked out nicely.

Neighbours was also rumored to be in the deal.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by LIP MAN

Just keep our picks and trade out players. Should have next years draft to go higher.

Maybe, but if you can make trades that gain significant value and completely remove the risk of taking a player that never plays in the league...why not??

If they land Rossi, I'd trade Kadri, Coleman and Rasmus this off season. I bet we get more picks back then we give up.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

I recall arguing with many posters about the Blues offer. I would have taken the 1st and Thomas and most disagreed. That would have worked out nicely.

Neighbours was also rumored to be in the deal.

No the offer was Tarasenko, Scandella and a 1st.

Thomas and Neighbours were never offered.

[Icon]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

But what bigger fish are out there? Especially bigger fish that are available for trade and don’t have Calgary on their no trade list.

Forget bigger fish, sounds like they are hunting for a unicorn.

Peterka, McTavish maybe?

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

No the offer was Tarasenko, Scandella and a 1st.

Thomas and Neighbours were never offered.

If Thomas was offered then Tkachuk would be a Blue. They wanted Tkachuk to play with Thomas

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

No the offer was Tarasenko, Scandella and a 1st.

Thomas and Neighbours were never offered.

Maybe it was just speculation on CP as Thomas was an unsigned RFA, but most posters would not have done it at the time.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Bonded

If Thomas was offered then Tkachuk would be a Blue. They wanted Tkachuk to play with Thomas

If we only could go back and look at the chat from that summer.

[Vinny01]

While someone can state they would have taken Thomas 3 years ago or Thomas now doesn’t change the fact the Blues never had him in the deal.

Carolina was the only other team to give the Flames pause from just immediately pursuing the Florida trade.

[Macho0978]

There was also a rumor of Kyrou, Krug and a 1st.

Stl had 23rd pick and took Snuggerud. Yurov, Kulich, Lambert, Bystedt were on the board as well.

[Badgers Nose]

Zito is the anti Treliving.

When he identifies a team need he gets it and pays what he has to.

No, 'almost had it' BS.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

While someone can state they would have taken Thomas 3 years ago or Thomas now doesn’t change the fact the Blues never had him in the deal.

Carolina was the only other team to give the Flames pause from just immediately pursuing the Florida trade.

So weird why the Blues didn't go all-in given the fit. He would have been an even bigger star in that city. That said looking back on things I'm not sure if they are better today with Tkachuk over Thomas.

[Royle9]

Let's put it this way for Calgary in terms of interest from what I've been told:

If the player is under 25
Cost controlled preferred
RFA is tempting
C is the position of biggest need
LD is a high priority
Immediate help to make the team better
UFA list is extremely small, almost non-existent

Then you can assume that Craig and the team are investigating all options.
There's a few names I've heard in Rossi, Peterka and Byram, but I could see McTavish and some other high profile names be on that as well.

In terms of cost, the following willy apply:

If your name ends in Wolf, Coronato or Parekh you're not going anywhere
In terms of veterans, Kadri & Weegar also not going anywhere
Not giving up premium assets for minimal upgrades
2026/27 1st round pick off the table
Huberdeau's contract makes him pretty much untradeable
I'll add that Backlunds loyalty to Calgary is not lost on Craig, but if he wants to move on for a cup then he controls his fate

Anything else can be had for a price.

[really?]

The Flames received a bounty for Tkachuk. Imagine what the deal would have looked like if they taken Huberdeau and Weber to market instead of resigning them. The problem wasn’t the deal, but rather the team’s intentions in the deal. Clearly the intent was to compete now, and that has obviously didn’t work out.

The way most sports are organized today, sometimes you have to lose to win. That doesn’t require a tank, but moving future assets for middling players in an effort to bolster mediocrity isn’t noble or committed, it’s counterproductive if the actual goal is to win a cup.

I don’t doubt that every member of the organization has winning cups as their ultimate goal, I just don’t see them having the patience to actually get it done.

[robertsfanatic]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Let's put it this way for Calgary in terms of interest from what I've been told:

If the player is under 25
Cost controlled preferred
RFA is tempting
C is the position of biggest need
LD is a high priority
Immediate help to make the team better
UFA list is extremely small, almost non-existent

Then you can assume that Craig and the team are investigating all options.
There's a few names I've heard in Rossi, Peterka and Byram, but I could see McTavish and some other high profile names be on that as well.

In terms of cost, the following willy apply:

If your name ends in Wolf, Coronato or Parekh you're not going anywhere
In terms of veterans, Kadri & Weegar also not going anywhere
Not giving up premium assets for minimal upgrades
2026/27 1st round pick off the table
Huberdeau's contract makes him pretty much untradeable
I'll add that Backlunds loyalty to Calgary is not lost on Craig, but if he wants to move on for a cup then he controls his fate

Anything else can be had for a price.

thanks as always for sharing this information, it is very much appreciated.

any word on contracts for our free agents?