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Old 07-11-2024, 11:11 PM   #15441
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I’m not saying Biden has dimentia but the Debate worked in the same manner as a diagnosis. So now what used to be played off as a Biden gaff that was funny but harmless is no a sign of mental decline.
Biden's camp, Kamala Harris and Jill Biden have known for quite some time. They tried to hide it until they couldn't. He just deteriorated way too quickly. The debate and the absolutely odd CNN debate format with cut mics at 2 min where Biden was prepped for was supposed to be an attempt to push through in as best of a controlled format as possible, and he simply failed. He had a cold we were told, and next morning he was presented to the world in a controlled setting how it was just a bad night.

Today was the first time that he pretty much had to fend on his own at the NATO summit. Even when the list of journalists was hand picked ahead, there was only so much control available to Democrats.


He likely has lewy body dementia. He doesn't experience significant memory issues so much as his train of thought makes no sense except for him.


https://www.nia.nih.gov/health/lewy-...C%20and%20mood.

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Severe loss of thinking abilities that interfere with daily activities. Unlike in Alzheimer's dementia, memory problems may not be evident at first but often arise as LBD progresses. Other changes related to thinking may include poor judgment, confusion about time and place, and difficulty with language and numbers.
My brother having schizophrenia (I've made a long post about it before) once you pinpoint or realize there is a mental issue, all the signs prior are much more apparent and it all starts making sense. He's pretty far in it as his movement issues were apparent pretty early on and tricks such as walking fast are meant to mask the lack of coordination. This is from 2021.



That's why I think he has no chance to last. You can see in his eyes when he's been questioned (he was almost in tears tonight) he understands there are issues, he's in straight denial about his ability to control it. I think he genuinely thinks he can tough it out. It's really sad to see.

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Old 07-11-2024, 11:27 PM   #15442
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I know right. Here is a great Fox-esque article from… the Washington post?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...enue-deficits/
Yeah, it's basically hell on earth:

#1 life expectancy in the US

#1 GDP per capita in the US

5th largest economy in the world if it was a country

#50 among US states in terms of net federal revenue received (i.e. least reliant on the federal government)

Women can actually receive proper health care and don't have to drive across state lines to have medically necessary abortions.


Yeah it's expensive and has brutal wealth inequality, but basically everywhere in the US has the latter. And it's funny people harping on population growth being an indicator of quality of life. Isn't everyone complaining that Canada's population is growing too fast?
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the other thing to remember with Biden is he has always made verbal gaffes as a side effect of his battle against stuttering, it is cruelly unfair but sometimes life's like that
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The media has definitely turned on Biden. You rarely hear anything about Trump anymore, which seems insane considering he's a bats*** crazy convicted criminal with fascist tendencies who attempted an actual coup and inspired a violent insurrection.
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the other thing to remember with Biden is he has always made verbal gaffes as a side effect of his battle against stuttering, it is cruelly unfair but sometimes life's like that
That's why in the past I always gave him a pass for occasionally taking his time to get the words out or mispronouncing word. I imagine it takes a lot of focus and mental exercise to overcome a speech impediment, especially when public speaking is what you do. It is probably getting more and more difficult these days.
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The media has definitely turned on Biden. You rarely hear anything about Trump anymore, which seems insane considering he's a bats*** crazy convicted criminal with fascist tendencies who attempted an actual coup and inspired a violent insurrection.
It’s like I’m watching a painfully stupid movie with a plot line so nonsensical I can’t even suspend belief to enjoy it.
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Old 07-12-2024, 07:45 AM   #15447
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The media has definitely turned on Biden. You rarely hear anything about Trump anymore, which seems insane considering he's a bats*** crazy convicted criminal with fascist tendencies who attempted an actual coup and inspired a violent insurrection.
It's not about Trump vs Biden right now. Biden likely dropping out is an unprecedented story. If he somehow is still the candidate after the convention, then the non-right wing media will certainly change it's tone and coverage.
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Old 07-12-2024, 08:41 AM   #15448
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The media has definitely turned on Biden. You rarely hear anything about Trump anymore, which seems insane considering he's a bats*** crazy convicted criminal with fascist tendencies who attempted an actual coup and inspired a violent insurrection.
Well for 1, Trump has always been like that, his debate performance was exactly as expected so it's not as newsworthy as Biden literally falling apart before our eyes. And 2, Trump has actually done the smart thing here and shut the #### up for once. The first rule of any political campaign is to never interrupt your opponent when they're making a mistake, and somehow he's actually doing that. I wonder if someone on his team took his phone away before he could try to pile on Biden
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Trump's still talking, he praised Don Jr's great wife at a rally a few nights ago, except Don Jr. isn't married.

But the media has a new shiny.
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Trump's still talking, he praised Don Jr's great wife at a rally a few nights ago, except Don Jr. isn't married.

But the media has a new shiny.
Yeah and we all know that Trump has his issues. But the President just introduced Zelenskyy as Putin, spoke about his VP as Trump and is pretty clearly in cognitive decline. I think that this is a far bigger story at this point and the media is right to be (finally) calling this out for what it is.
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I mean Trump is also in cognitive decline, but he's, you know, psychopathic. It's that we've kind of just accepted that with him, so if he came out tomorrow and said he wanted to kill all immigrants we'd all just shrug it off as "Yeah, that's Trump for you". Any other candidate ever and that'd be instant disqualification, but with Trump it'd be nothing.
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Yeah and we all know that Trump has his issues. But the President just introduced Zelenskyy as Putin, spoke about his VP as Trump and is pretty clearly in cognitive decline. I think that this is a far bigger story at this point and the media is right to be (finally) calling this out for what it is.
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Well this is fun.

The current state of news media ####ing sucks. Infotainment. Gross and frustrating and I don't even watch any of that ####.
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Biden isn't a kunt
Oh, I don't mean to dismiss this fact! I just think that this is unprecedented. You have a sitting President who simply refuses to step aside from the nomination, never mind the question of whether he is still fit to serve the remainder of this term.

I do think that the pressure is mounting and he will be forced into doing the right thing, but like a lot of other boomers, he just won't make this easy and his legacy is being ruined on the way out.
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Biden is better than Trump in every way possible, as a human and a leader. Everyone knows this. But he's in such a decline that he needs to step aside. I'm seeing people on Twitter furiously attacking people who are saying that, but it's true. 'But Trump is worse/evil/racist///!!!!' yeah, exactly! The US needs a coherent candidate that can beat him for the sake of democracy. This shouldn't be controversial.

It's been kinda shocking seeing people on the left like MSNBC say that he nailed that press conference. He absolutely did not and it's really scary that people are fine with watching him spiral like that.
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I could be wrong on this, but I'm guessing there really isn't such a thing as a Biden stan. Like if Biden drops out they won't vote at all, or will vote for Trump out of spite. Biden is going to get 40% of the vote simply by not being Trump, but he's pretty much capped at that 40%. Any other candidate is also going to get that 40%, but might be able to get to the 45-47% needed to win.
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It's not just him stumbling with his speech. Look at the way he walks.

Biden has to do the right thing and step down.

They really need a age limit, this is not good.
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I could be wrong on this, but I'm guessing there really isn't such a thing as a Biden stan. Like if Biden drops out they won't vote at all, or will vote for Trump out of spite. Biden is going to get 40% of the vote simply by not being Trump, but he's pretty much capped at that 40%. Any other candidate is also going to get that 40%, but might be able to get to the 45-47% needed to win.
Biden's biggest asset is that he is tolerable to all the groups they need. Black people, blue collar northern state workers, progressives and moderates. A lot of other choices risk alienating some of those. I think the blue collar northerner is the biggest wild card and maybe most important. Black political groups seem the most stubborn in their support of him, but I am guessing that's because they think he has the best chance of winning.
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It's interesting that while there's been a few Dem politicians that have said Biden should step aside, most haven't.

I think that means they think he's the best shot at winning.. because if they truly thought he'll lose you would think a lot more would change their messaging since their fate is pretty closely tied to Biden's.

If Biden loses to Trump one would think there'd be a lot of other Dems who are going to be out if they lose their battles. So if they thought Biden will lose wouldn't they be more vocal to protect themselves?
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It's interesting that while there's been a few Dem politicians that have said Biden should step aside, most haven't.

I think that means they think he's the best shot at winning.. because if they truly thought he'll lose you would think a lot more would change their messaging since their fate is pretty closely tied to Biden's.

If Biden loses to Trump one would think there'd be a lot of other Dems who are going to be out if they lose their battles. So if they thought Biden will lose wouldn't they be more vocal to protect themselves?
These are the same people who literally wheeled Diane Feinstein in for votes after her stroke though. They're of questionable moral character. The reality is, you have an elderly man with clear cognitive deficiencies who is in charge of the nation. It's preposterous to suggest that there is no one of sound mind available, and even worse to think that there is no one else who could beat Trump.
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