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Old 05-28-2025, 01:49 PM   #15421
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Rossi might help in regular season but you don't win in the playoffs with mini men.

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Ok calm your tits Paul Baxter! lol
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Old 05-28-2025, 01:56 PM   #15422
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Rossi might help in regular season but you don't win in the playoffs with mini men.

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Peterka let's do it

Right side of peterka, coronato, klapka.
But you can get..one millllllllon dollars.
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Old 05-28-2025, 02:28 PM   #15423
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Ras for Miller plus Rags 1st? start the car....i think Miller can be salvaged.
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Old 05-28-2025, 02:30 PM   #15424
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Ras for Miller plus Rags 1st? start the car....i think Miller can be salvaged.
Sure, I would be willing to take that chance if they include their 1st
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Old 05-28-2025, 02:33 PM   #15425
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I'd even do Andersson + 32 for Miller + 12 TBH
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Old 05-28-2025, 02:34 PM   #15426
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I'd also take their 2026 1st to kick the pick down the road to a better draft.
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Old 05-28-2025, 03:09 PM   #15427
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I'd also take their 2026 1st to kick the pick down the road to a better draft.
NYR either has to give Pens this yr's pick or next per Athletic:
"The Rangers have been awarded the 12th pick in the 2025 NHL Draft. If they’d like, they may keep that selection. Doing so guarantees that the Penguins own the Rangers’ 2026 first-round pick. The Rangers also have the option to give the Penguins the 12th pick this June, which will allow the Rangers to keep their 2026 pick."
"The Rangers don’t have to make up their minds until 48 hours before the draft, which certainly makes the Penguins’ draft strategy more uneasy."
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NYR either has to give Pens this yr's pick or next per Athletic:
"The Rangers have been awarded the 12th pick in the 2025 NHL Draft. If they’d like, they may keep that selection. Doing so guarantees that the Penguins own the Rangers’ 2026 first-round pick. The Rangers also have the option to give the Penguins the 12th pick this June, which will allow the Rangers to keep their 2026 pick."
"The Rangers don’t have to make up their minds until 48 hours before the draft, which certainly makes the Penguins’ draft strategy more uneasy."
That could make them slightly more willing to trade the pick for a player like Ras now. Makes them better for next year and pushes that pick down that they end up giving away.
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Old 05-28-2025, 04:42 PM   #15429
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I read that the Rangers might part with pick 12 this year rather than risk giving away McKenna.

They're a couple injuries and lottery away from looking real bad if they push it to next year. But they didn't hire Sjllivan to miss the playoffs either

Ottawa had to make a similar call with their forfeited pick. Of course they have the we were just kidding no punishment for you hope that the League levied on the Devils for the Kovalchuk cap circumvention.
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Old 05-28-2025, 05:33 PM   #15430
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I read that the Rangers might part with pick 12 this year rather than risk giving away McKenna.

They're a couple injuries and lottery away from looking real bad if they push it to next year. But they didn't hire Sjllivan to miss the playoffs either

Ottawa had to make a similar call with their forfeited pick. Of course they have the we were just kidding no punishment for you hope that the League levied on the Devils for the Kovalchuk cap circumvention.
How do the NYR rationalize that without going full rebuild. They expect to be a lottery team, but will also be going into the season with:

Panarin - 34
Miller - 32
Zibanejad - 32
Trochek - 31
Kreider - 34

The Rangers don't really have any time to lose with that core.
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Old 05-28-2025, 05:54 PM   #15431
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Rangers need to retool .

Dump some salary bring in Marner.
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Old 05-28-2025, 08:17 PM   #15432
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Rangers need to retool .

Dump some salary bring in Marner.
I could see that. Trade Trochek and Kreider to make cap space.
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Old 05-28-2025, 09:34 PM   #15433
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How do the NYR rationalize that without going full rebuild. They expect to be a lottery team, but will also be going into the season with:

Panarin - 34
Miller - 32
Zibanejad - 32
Trochek - 31
Kreider - 34

The Rangers don't really have any time to lose with that core.
They also have the following :

Fox - 27
Miller - 25
Lafrenière - 23
Cuylle - 23
Schneider - 23
Perreault (who should be real good) - 20

The rangers could turn things around quickly as they still have some very solid young players on their roster. A re-tool is far more likely imo. If they run into trouble next season they would be able to move some of the players listed above for valuable assets. Panarin could net a nice return for them (at the very least a solid younger roster player or 1st ++), Trocheck has value, heck even Krieder should be able to net you something good if ever he slightly returns to form (injuries wrecked his season last year). Can't see them fully tearing it down, too much talent about to enter thier prime.
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If they run into trouble next season they would be able to move some of the players listed above for valuable assets. Panarin could net a nice return for them (at the very least a solid younger roster player or 1st ++), Trocheck has value, heck even Krieder should be able to net you something good if ever he slightly returns to form (injuries wrecked his season last year). Can't see them fully tearing it down, too much talent about to enter their prime.
Panarin at the trade deadline, yes.

Kreider hasn't been very good, and with 1.5 years left at the deadline would be hard to move.

Zib hasn't played very well, and with lots of term and AAV left, likely has negative value at this stage.

I agree they won't tear it down, but likely should. Even with their young talent.
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Old 05-29-2025, 05:35 AM   #15435
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Hard to tear it down when you have one of the best goalies in the world. You don’t just find that player often.

That said, I’d have no idea where to start with the Rangers.
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Old 05-29-2025, 06:11 AM   #15436
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Hard to tear it down when you have one of the best goalies in the world. You don’t just find that player often.

That said, I’d have no idea where to start with the Rangers.
The problem with the Rangers is everyone you would want to trade to retool has a full NMC except Kreider who has a M-NTC.

They aren't getting McKenna with Shesterkin in net and the vets they have.

Trade Kreider, trade Laf , trade K Miller and sign Marner and make room for Perrault.

Pick up a guy like Rasmus with 50% RS.
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Old 05-29-2025, 06:12 AM   #15437
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The problem with the Rangers is everyone you would want to trade to retool has a full NMC except Kreider who has a M-NTC.

They aren't getting McKenna with Shesterkin in net and the vets they have.

Trade Kreider, trade Laf , trade K Miller and sign Marner and make room for Perrault.

Pick up a guy like Rasmus with 50% RS.
I haven't looked at the vets with NMC and specifically term left but I'm guessing with some salary retention - other contenders would snap them up.
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Old 05-29-2025, 08:08 AM   #15439
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I haven't looked at the vets with NMC and specifically term left but I'm guessing with some salary retention - other contenders would snap them up.
Trochek, Zib, Panarin and JT Miller all have full NMC. I see all 4 wanting to stay and they are good enough I doubt the Rangers push them out like Trouba.

Fox and Shesterkin are going to stay as well. I just don't see them making a run at McKenna with that core. If they trade Laf and K Miller along with Kreider, they could add some decent picks and they are the Rangers, if they clear cap they can add a guy like Marner. They also have some decent prospects that can step in, I see them doing that type of retool over tanking for a year.
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Old 05-29-2025, 09:58 AM   #15440
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They also have the following :

Fox - 27
Miller - 25
Lafrenière - 23
Cuylle - 23
Schneider - 23
Perreault (who should be real good) - 20

The rangers could turn things around quickly as they still have some very solid young players on their roster. A re-tool is far more likely imo. If they run into trouble next season they would be able to move some of the players listed above for valuable assets. Panarin could net a nice return for them (at the very least a solid younger roster player or 1st ++), Trocheck has value, heck even Krieder should be able to net you something good if ever he slightly returns to form (injuries wrecked his season last year). Can't see them fully tearing it down, too much talent about to enter thier prime.
That's fair enough. But they have to make a bit of a choice during the off season.

As long as all the vets are there I can't see them partially gutting the team to go into retool mode, at least not this off season.

I also don't see that list you've provided, outside of Fox, as anything special. Is there a team in the league that doesn't have players like that? Are you going into a rebuild, because you plan to rely on Will Cuylle to retool your team around?
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