2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[CFO]

Rossi might help in regular season but you don't win in the playoffs with mini men.

Pass.

Peterka let's do it

Right side of peterka, coronato, klapka.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Rossi would be a great acquisition regardless of size. He also plays bigger than his size. I think he is a solid 1B, can easily roll him and Kadri and see if Rossi can prove himself as the 1C, if not, then continue to draft centers and hope one becomes our 1C. Kadri and Rossi would be a good 1/2 punch until someone else comes along. That could very well be Zary, Frost (long shot), or a future drafted center prospect.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by CFO

Rossi might help in regular season but you don't win in the playoffs with mini men.

Tell that to Tampa Bay.

[dino7c]

Gaudreau scored the biggest Flames playoff goal in the last 20 years

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Gaudreau scored the biggest Flames playoff goal in the last 20 years

Don't know why we always downplay size when we're one of the few franchises that has had success with them.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Don't know why we always downplay size when we're one of the few franchises that has had success with them.

Because he was an exception? As you sort of admit. And even those successes were pretty limited. What did the Flames win with Gaudreau or Fleury as the centrepiece?

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Because he was an exception? As you sort of admit. And even those successes were pretty limited. What did the Flames win with Gaudreau or Fleury as the centrepiece?

We’re acting like Rossi is Yamamoto over here. He would do just fine in a Flames sweater.

[dino7c]

He's a good player, the more good players the better

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by CFO

Rossi might help in regular season but you don't win in the playoffs with mini men.

Pass.

Peterka let's do it

Right side of peterka, coronato, klapka.

Yeah, sooooo much playoffs - I am sick of watching the Flames in the playoffs all these years without winning the Cup.

It’s time to get over that hurdle and win the Cup. Right now. Just getting in isn’t enough anymore.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Because he was an exception? As you sort of admit. And even those successes were pretty limited. What did the Flames win with Gaudreau or Fleury as the centrepiece?

You have to learn to walk before you can run and right now the Flames aren't even a playoff calibre team. Those players at least got the Flames in position to compete in the playoffs for the Stanley Cup. Tanking is really the only way to try and get a true franchise altering player so as long as the Flames are going to try and build through drafting outside of the top 10 and via trades, they may as well at least build a team that can make the playoffs.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

Yeah, sooooo much playoffs - I am sick of watching the Flames in the playoffs all these years without winning the Cup.

It’s time to get over that hurdle and win the Cup. Right now. Just getting in isn’t enough anymore.

We are on the verge of a 6 year stretch where 2 teams make the finals 3 years in a row. Back-to-back years with the same 2 teams and only 7 different teams have made the finals in the last 6 years.

The Stars have been to 3 straight conference finals.

Montreal is the only team that has gone far that isn't a usual suspect.

[Royle9]

Rossi would instantly become the #1C here in Calgary, and his size is far from an issue its not like he's 5'6 here.

If the Flames truly want to try and fast track the "rebuild" and I'm not saying I agree with it personally, but flipping those assets into Rossi + Byram would certainly propel them into a playoff spot if we play the way we did this year again.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Rossi would instantly become the #1C here in Calgary, and his size is far from an issue its not like he's 5'6 here.

If the Flames truly want to try and fast track the "rebuild" and I'm not saying I agree with it personally, but flipping those assets into Rossi + Byram would certainly propel them into a playoff spot if we play the way we did this year again.

No he wouldn't.

Kadri gets more points, gets tougher matchups as our #1 C, and is a more complete player. He's also a leader and a mentor.

Rossi is talented, but 'instantly become the #1 C here'? Come on. Why do Flames fans show so little respect for Flames players?

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

No he wouldn't.

Kadri gets more points, gets tougher matchups as our #1 C, and is a more complete player. He's also a leader and a mentor.

Rossi is talented, but 'instantly become the #1 C here'? Come on. Why do Flames fans show so little respect for Flames players?

Show little respect? Holy Moly that's a stretch.
Kadri is the #1C here because our center depth is terrible, but yes Kadri had an amazing season last year.
Either of them could fill that role next year, and I'd wager that would be just the case under Huska.

But Kadri is 34 and on the back half of his career, Rossi is 23 and just coming into his game. I fail to see how saying Rossi would become the #1C is even remotely insulting... but to each their own.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

No he wouldn't.

Kadri gets more points, gets tougher matchups as our #1 C, and is a more complete player. He's also a leader and a mentor.

Rossi is talented, but 'instantly become the #1 C here'? Come on. Why do Flames fans show so little respect for Flames players?

Rossi is good, but let's not forget he played about half his time with a top 3-5 player in the league this year.

[Enoch Root]

The respect comment was to fans in general.

But you said he would instantly be our #1 C, which I think is way off the mark - Kadri is a much better player. Could Rossi pass him at some point, due to Kadri's age? Of course. But I strongly doubt he will ever be the Flames', or any other team's, #1 C.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Rossi is good, but let's not forget he played about half his time with a top 3-5 player in the league this year.

Exactly.

Take last season, and replace Kadri with Rossi - does Rossi still get 60 pts? More? Less? I would take the under all day. Are the Flames better or worse? Substantially worse, IMO.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

The respect comment was to fans in general.

But you said he would instantly be our #1 C, which I think is way off the mark - Kadri is a much better player. Could Rossi pass him at some point, due to Kadri's age? Of course. But I strongly doubt he will ever be the Flames', or any other team's, #1 C.

Correct, there is a reason why Minny doesn't want to commit to Rossi long term.

The Flames giving up some decent assets to acquire Rossi will help them in the short term to make the playoffs, but likely hurts them long term if the goal is to win the Stanley Cup.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

The respect comment was to fans in general.

But you said he would instantly be our #1 C, which I think is way off the mark - Kadri is a much better player. Could Rossi pass him at some point, due to Kadri's age? Of course. But I strongly doubt he will ever be the Flames', or any other team's, #1 C.

I think he would, his offensive ceiling is higher in my opinion (hes 23)
Kadri at the same age put up 44 and 50 point seasons just for comparison sake.
You don't have to agree with it, as you're entitled to yours.

There's a reason just about every hockey mind has Calgary needing skilled centers, and Rossi fits that bill.

Kadri wouldn't be the #1C on any team in the playoffs currently, and that's not taking away from his 67 points this year (7 more than Rossi) but simply put he's a PERFECT 2nd line center and that's where most teams in the NHL would have him.

In Calgary he's our #1 because we have nothing else, our center depth is terrible and I think we both know that.

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Exactly.

Take last season, and replace Kadri with Rossi - does Rossi still get 60 pts? More? Less? I would take the under all day. Are the Flames better or worse? Substantially worse, IMO.

Kadri is still on the team, your adding a 2nd center who put up 60 points.
How are we subtracting Nazem's points?

Your essentially saying that replacing the theoretical swap of Andersson + Pospisil for Rossi and Byram would make Calgary substantially worse?

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Correct, there is a reason why Minny doesn't want to commit to Rossi long term.

That's not at all why Minny wont commit long term, I'd argue they would want to keep him if they could.
The bad blood between both sides is public at this point, they have a #1C and Franchise player that's going to get paid. They don't want to spend additional large cap on what is essentially their 2nd best center at this point.

[Macho0978]

Byram makes more sense than Rossi IMO. Byram can easily come in this year and get big minutes. Rasmus looks like he will be gone this off season and he played over 24 minutes a game.

Rossi and Frost are RFAs. Both will be wanting a long-term commitment, Rossi maybe would take a bridge but you need to trade significant assets to get him so the Flames might want the commitment.

I just don't see how it works when Backlund and Kadri seem like they are here to stay, and they play big minutes. None of these guys deserve a 4th line role but someone has to be that guy and Frost probably the best bet to be that guy, if so, why commit to him? Trade value is probably low too.

Unless we deal Kadri, it will be hard to add a young center than is established already.