Breaking Bad

[Wormius]

Ha. I have "Citizen Laszlo" .

Surprisingly, no Walt Whitman...

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

Not me. I'm happy the show is going out while on top. The show still could be great for a couple more seasons, but you then start questioning integrity and poking holes at everything as it seems its just dragging along just for ratings and money. There's not a lot of artistic integrity in movies/TV these days.

As much as I love the show, im okay with it ending in a couple weeks and will be happy I saw a beginning, middle and an end to this great character transformation, which is really unprecedented on TV to my knowledge. I can't think of a character that has done a 180 the way Walter White has and it's been fascinating to watch.

I'll even pay real money when they make it into a movie a few years later.

[speede5]

This gave me a good chuckle this morning.

[darklord700]

I'm only at the end of season 2 when Walter suddenly becomes territorial by telling two meth cooking punks to get out of his territory. I wonder why such a character change. Would it be because Walter has nothing to show for for his life contrasted by Elliot's success at Gray Matter. And cooking good meth is one thing he excels in so he wants to preserve or prolong this feeling.

[nfotiu]

Can someone recap the whole ricin stuff for me. It has been a while and I don't remember it all that well.

Here's what I remember:

Spoiler!

Brock got sick. Jesse had the ricin cigarette with his cigarette's because Walt wanted him to kill someone with it, but it never worked out? And then Jesse realized it was gone and became sure it was Walt? Then Walt planted it in the Roomba and Jesse found it. But then the doctor's determined it was the berry plant, and they finished the season showing Walt had the berry plant by his pool.

So, why did Walt take the ricin cigarette from Jesse in the first place since he didn't use it to poison Brock? And didn't Jesse believe the doctor's that it wasn't ricin? Or am I mis-remembering stuff? And if the ricin cigarette was in the roomba, was it another one he hid in the outlet? I can't remember the point of hiding it in the outlet.

[fredr123]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Ha. I have "Citizen Laszlo" .

Surprisingly, no Walt Whitman...

I caught that the other day too. Trying to figure out the connection between the cast and crew of Breaking Bad and Father Guido Sarducci.

There are also a few Native American history books, stuff about the American southwest, Stephen King books (King is a big Breaking Bad fan), and some Lewis Grizzard works.

You can also see The Complete Guide to Financial Privacy (a book about hiding assets from legal process and relatives), The Night the Bear Ate Goombaw (another anthology of humor), and Miserable Paradise on the bottom shelf.

[TurnedTheCorner]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

Can someone recap the whole ricin stuff for me. It has been a while and I don't remember it all that well.

Here's what I remember:

Spoiler!

Brock got sick. Jesse had the ricin cigarette with his cigarette's because Walt wanted him to kill someone with it, but it never worked out? And then Jesse realized it was gone and became sure it was Walt? Then Walt planted it in the Roomba and Jesse found it. But then the doctor's determined it was the berry plant, and they finished the season showing Walt had the berry plant by his pool.

So, why did Walt take the ricin cigarette from Jesse in the first place since he didn't use it to poison Brock? And didn't Jesse believe the doctor's that it wasn't ricin? Or am I mis-remembering stuff? And if the ricin cigarette was in the roomba, was it another one he hid in the outlet? I can't remember the point of hiding it in the outlet.

Spoiler!

The ricin in the cigarette was for Jesse to use on Gus. When Jesse "lost" the Ricin cigarette, he thought Brock had found it and initially blamed Walt. Walt convinced him that Gus used it on Brock, since Gus has shown no qualms about using/killing children in his business dealings.

Walt poisoned Brock with the Lilly of the Valley to manipulate Jesse into going along with the idea that it was Gus or them. And then planted the ricin cigarette in the Roomba to get Jesse thinking he had simply lost the cigarette after all, now that he knew Brock didn't in fact ingest it.

It's the same ricin cigarette that Walt has in the wall outlet.

Hope that helps. Think I got it all right and addressed your questions.

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by TurnedTheCorner

Spoiler!

The ricin in the cigarette was for Jesse to use on Gus. When Jesse "lost" the Ricin cigarette, he thought Brock had found it and initially blamed Walt. Walt convinced him that Gus used it on Brock, since Gus has shown no qualms about using/killing children in his business dealings.

Walt poisoned Brock with the Lilly of the Valley to manipulate Jesse into going along with the idea that it was Gus or them. And then planted the ricin cigarette in the Roomba to get Jesse thinking he had simply lost the cigarette after all, now that he knew Brock didn't in fact ingest it.

It's the same ricin cigarette that Walt has in the wall outlet.

Hope that helps. Think I got it all right and addressed your questions.

Not going to use a spoiler tag as we are talking about something that happened in 2011. Jesse blamed Walt initially because he believed that Walt stole the ricin from his cigarette pack and poisoned Brock with it. He went so far as to suggest that Walt had Saul steal the cigarette, but Walt convinced him that it was actually Gus that stole it and poisoned Brock in an attempt to frame Walt.

[WilderPegasus]

Originally Posted by Ark2

Not going to use a spoiler tag as we are talking about something that happened in 2011. Jesse blamed Walt initially because he believed that Walt stole the ricin from his cigarette pack and poisoned Brock with it. He went so far as to suggest that Walt had Saul steal the cigarette, but Walt convinced him that it was actually Gus that stole it and poisoned Brock in an attempt to frame Walt.

Although Walt didn't actually plant the ricin cigarette in the Roomba. He instead replaced the vial of ricin with a vial of salt. Then he hid the vial of ricin in the electrical outlet at his house. In the fast forward scene where his house has been seized by the authorities and abandoned, that's what he went back for.

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by Ark2

Not going to use a spoiler tag as we are talking about something that happened in 2011. Jesse blamed Walt initially because he believed that Walt stole the ricin from his cigarette pack and poisoned Brock with it. He went so far as to suggest that Walt had Saul steal the cigarette, but Walt convinced him that it was actually Gus that stole it and poisoned Brock in an attempt to frame Walt.

I figured there are enough people catching up that are in this thread.

Spoiler!

Your's and TTC's posts brought everything back for me. Still kind of bugs me a little though trying to figure out what is going through Jesse's mind right now.

Figuring out that Walt stole the ricin cigarette was one thing, and maybe that shows that he figured out that Walt was probably manipulating him against Gus as normal. But how does it leave Jesse to believe that Walt actually poisoned Brock, when it was established that it wasn't Ricin?

[WilderPegasus]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

I figured there are enough people catching up that are in this thread.

Spoiler!

Your's and TTC's posts brought everything back for me. Still kind of bugs me a little though trying to figure out what is going through Jesse's mind right now.

Figuring out that Walt stole the ricin cigarette was one thing, and maybe that shows that he figured out that Walt was probably manipulating him against Gus as normal. But how does it leave Jesse to believe that Walt actually poisoned Brock, when it was established that it wasn't Ricin?

When he couldn't find his weed he knew the only possible explanation was that Huel pickpocketed it. Jesse previously suspected that Walt had gotten Saul to lift the ricin off him but he didn't know that Huel was a pickpocket. It made him realize that his suspicions were correct since it made more sense than him losing the ricin and it ending up in the Roomba where Walt discovered it. If Walt planted the ricin the only reason he had for doing it was if he had poisoned Brock.

[fredr123]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

Can someone recap the whole ricin stuff for me. It has been a while and I don't remember it all that well.

Here's what I remember:

Spoiler!

Brock got sick. Jesse had the ricin cigarette with his cigarette's because Walt wanted him to kill someone with it, but it never worked out? And then Jesse realized it was gone and became sure it was Walt? Then Walt planted it in the Roomba and Jesse found it. But then the doctor's determined it was the berry plant, and they finished the season showing Walt had the berry plant by his pool.

So, why did Walt take the ricin cigarette from Jesse in the first place since he didn't use it to poison Brock? And didn't Jesse believe the doctor's that it wasn't ricin? Or am I mis-remembering stuff? And if the ricin cigarette was in the roomba, was it another one he hid in the outlet? I can't remember the point of hiding it in the outlet.

Alan Sepinwall included a timeline of events in his recap of the episode "Confessions": http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-wat...ter-thespian/2

[Huntingwhale]

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by fredr123

Alan Sepinwall included a timeline of events in his recap of the episode "Confessions": http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-wat...ter-thespian/2

Thanks, that covered everything exactly. I still have a little trouble with the part about Ricin not being used being besides the point though, as Jesse has know for a while Walt was manipulating him through everything. At least I am not feeling like I am missing anything from my memory. This show really asks a lot in remembering details from a few years ago!

[corporatejay]

Posted this in the funny/cool thread but thought it was a cool breaking bad inside joke.

[Tinordi]

What was the deal with the memory card issue in the camera?

[polak]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

What was the deal with the memory card issue in the camera?

Probably just full

[Tinordi]

Originally Posted by polak

Probably just full

So why write it into the script then?

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

So why write it into the script then?

To probably indicate to the audience that Jesse's confession was lengthy.

[GP_Matt]

There is no way that Walt is still involved in a meth lab that is shipping such an inferior product. He wouldn't order the guys making 68% meth to be killed to make room for 75% pure. It still isn't good enough for someone who demands perfection.