Breaking Bad

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by Igottago

Ok that's right, I forgot Todd's uncle was behind the prison hits.

Heisenberg is going to off you! It wasn't Todd's uncle....

[ranchlandsselling]

That epsoide was stressful. I don't think I even enjoyed it, which would be a first. I felt compelled to fast forward.

[To Be Quite Honest]

So sad when this ends...

[Radio]

Originally Posted by Igottago

Yeah, I'm not ready to completely dismiss the theory either. If you look at everything that's happened, there are a lot of subtle hints that maybe Walt is still behind all of that. We don't really know that it was just a hostile takeover by Todd and his uncle's group. I can't really remember all of the cold opening a few episodes ago where it was Todd and his uncle at the diner...but it just seems to me there is someone holding the strings there, and it hasn't been revealed yet. I think Walt's phone call to Todd saying "I need your uncle to do one more thing" was a bigger reveal than people are catching onto.

Edit: I actually just re-watched the opening from last episode and it seems like Walt doesn't know about the hit on the meth lab, but Todd leaves him a message about the change in management. Then it ends with them driving the gear into new mexico.

I dunno. This show is messing with my head.

The hit on the lab was because the Arizona gang was cooking for Lydia and she was sending it to the Czechs. But it was only 68% pure, and Todd's last batch was 75%. Their 68% is not what they are paying for. She went there to "check" on their operation and explain that the Czechs weren't happy with the quality.

So it wasn't really a hostile take over...more of a change in management. I don't think Walt is running things but still wants/needs to know what's going on.

[jammies]

So... those of you who felt that Hank isn't supposed to be a bad guy, how'd you feel about him being all right with setting Jessie up to die? Yet another example of how he believes the ends justify the means, and this time he explicitly says as much to Gomey.

And now Walt has completely corrupted Skylar, who doesn't care what happens to anyone as long as she and the family are "safe". And Saul isn't so funny anymore when he wants to "Old Yeller" Jessie. Who is left to cheer for - Marie?

I'm also unsure of the moral lesson that can be drawn from Walt sparing Jessie looking to be his eventual undoing. It's more like an amoral lesson, really.

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Originally Posted by To Be Quite Honest

So sad when this ends...

Not me. I'm happy the show is going out while on top. The show still could be great for a couple more seasons, but you then start questioning integrity and poking holes at everything as it seems its just dragging along just for ratings and money. There's not a lot of artistic integrity in movies/TV these days.

As much as I love the show, im okay with it ending in a couple weeks and will be happy I saw a beginning, middle and an end to this great character transformation, which is really unprecedented on TV to my knowledge. I can't think of a character that has done a 180 the way Walter White has and it's been fascinating to watch.

[sun]

Originally Posted by getbak

Finale prediction: Walt's going to poison Hank with the ricin and Marie will get arrested for it after her shrink tells the police how she spoke at length about using an untraceable poison.

I don't think so, but it was a pretty pointless scene, so who knows.

Definitely pretty curious about Jesse's plan. I assume he told Hank that he killed Gale. Not sure what kind of "deal" the DEA can give you when you admit to murder. Hank is using Jesse (or trying to) as a tool, same way Walt did.

[Shin Pad]

Originally Posted by sun

I don't think so, but it was a pretty pointless scene, so who knows.

Definitely pretty curious about Jesse's plan. I assume he told Hank that he killed Gale. Not sure what kind of "deal" the DEA can give you when you admit to murder. Hank is using Jesse (or trying to) as a tool, same way Walt did.

This may have been discussed somewhere in this thread, but without having to read through 70 pages, I think Walt goes into Saul's "changing identity" program. In the first episode of Season 5, Walt is sitting in a restaurant having breakfast, and tells the waitress that he's 52 years old. Anyway, he has New Hampshire identification. I think he escapes using the same process that was offered to Jesse. Something must have happened back in NM which compelled him to come back and buy an assault rifle. Who is he after?

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

Yeah but how would he find out about her wanting to poison someone? What did he bug the doctors office?

I don't think the doctor - patient confidentiality comes into play here. I think he could come forward after, couldn't he?

Edit: Marie said something to the effect about this person causing trouble for her and Hank. Doesn't make it sound like she wants to hurt Hank.

[Wormius]

So, I know people were going on about how Walt assimilates certain behaviors from people he has killed, and that he was wearing Jesse's green army jacket... But isn't Todd the one wearing that coat in "Confessions"?

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by TurnedTheCorner

I dunno, I could see this fitting together.

Why would Todd call Walter about the change in management if Walt is completely out?

You could have a point. If this is all a ruse for the benefit of Skyler and others it could play out well.

I am not sure why all of these characters still have access to Walt - Lydia and Todd, I mean.

But, I am curious about what is going on with Todd's group and Lydia's interests. I think whatever arrangement they have will end badly for both sides.

[TurnedTheCorner]

I agree about Todd/Lydia. Walt nearly lost everything in his dealings with Gus - and then he goes out and gets into business with people he can't control or predict. Again. At least that's how I see it.

How will Jesse make out in the end? A clue, perhaps (hidden for size)

Spoiler!

DEA and then a mug handle. Hmmm...

[getbak]

Who knew that Hank and/or Marie were that into horses?

[DownhillGoat]

I got a chuckle out of the Deadwood series DVD on the shelf.

[Radio]

There is a yellow book there called 'Big Secrets'...dun dun duh!

[fredr123]

Originally Posted by Radio

There is a yellow book there called 'Big Secrets'...dun dun duh!

There are a bunch of books that are obviously a little self conscious:

The Rat
The Stand
The Final Days
Mad Money
The Money Harvest
Destiny
Big Secrets
The Blue Nowhere
Crazy Rhythm (among other things, a book about Nixon, Watergate, and secret recordings)


... and probably way more if you can get a better screenshot.

[aaronck]

I noticed the book titles when watching the episode, pretty cool. Also, why is Marie no longer wearing purple lately, is it just since she found out about Walt?

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

Not me. I'm happy the show is going out while on top. The show still could be great for a couple more seasons, but you then start questioning integrity and poking holes at everything as it seems its just dragging along just for ratings and money. There's not a lot of artistic integrity in movies/TV these days.

As much as I love the show, im okay with it ending in a couple weeks and will be happy I saw a beginning, middle and an end to this great character transformation, which is really unprecedented on TV to my knowledge. I can't think of a character that has done a 180 the way Walter White has and it's been fascinating to watch.

Yeah I think the show is going at the right time as it has peaked and while the quality is still good there's nowhere to go but down by dragging out the story and characters.

[Radio]

Originally Posted by aaronck

I noticed the book titles when watching the episode, pretty cool. Also, why is Marie no longer wearing purple lately, is it just since she found out about Walt?

She's wearing purple in the picture and drinking from a purple cup.

[Mike F]

Originally Posted by fredr123

... and probably way more if you can get a better screenshot.