2020/2021 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

That would be a massive homerun. Dvorak has 1st line C potential with decent linemates.

Isn’t the go to knock on Monahan that he isn’t a first line centre without decent line mates? Now it’s a goal of ours?

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Isn’t the go to knock on Monahan that he isn’t a first line centre without decent line mates? Now it’s a goal of ours?

Right?

Also Dvorak is like a budget Monahan at best... and people are clamoring that he's going to all of a sudden turn into a #1C savior? Jesus I know its slow but you guys are on some serious koolaid.

[Robbob]

I also want some change on the roster, but I think one of the biggest issues for Treliving is having is that all his peers know he wants to make a change and has probably been given garbage offers. I don't think the team can afford to do a Hall or Keith (or the Flames version in Savard) trade. If that is the case then I am fine with letting things play out until the right deal is there, or at least one where we aren't trending on twitter for the wrong reasons. Hopefully after the ED the trade market opens up.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Dvorak has 1st line C potential with decent linemates.

Only if those decent linemates are named McDavid and Draisaitl.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by Robbob

I also want some change on the roster, but I think one of the biggest issues for Treliving is having is that all his peers know he wants to make a change and has probably been given garbage offers. I don't think the team can afford to do a Hall or Keith (or the Flames version in Savard) trade. If that is the case then I am fine with letting things play out until the right deal is there, or at least one where we aren't trending on twitter for the wrong reasons. Hopefully after the ED the trade market opens up.

It will be interesting to see how much cap space Calgary has after the ED

[flamesgod]

What type of deal do you guys think Hall will be looking for? Something like the 6x6 special?

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

I think our prospects are better than ppl give them credit. Guys like Francis, Phillips, Wolf, Yan just to mention a few.

Come on, let’s be serious. Our prospects are way below average to not good. We have Zary and Pelletier as our best, and neither of them have top line potential. If they develop we’ll get a couple middle six players, which is acceptable for where they were drafted. Wolf and Kuznetsov are probably the next best, but a lot of that can be contributed to the lack of depth in the system. Where they stack up against other prospects at their positions is not overly high. After that, we are on the short end of the prospect stick. The Flames have a bunch of long shots, but that is understandable when you’re picking in the 4th through 7th rounds. You don’t get many quality players in those rounds and the Flames’ system is reflective of that.

Add to this year's picks and next and we could be in a great spot going forward.

A great spot? Well, we’ll be seeing an improvement, but so will most teams in the league as they add prospects to their systems as well. The Flames are several drafts away from being in a great position, and that is on,y if the scouts come through and pick some kids that actually develop. We’re prospect poor and we need more than an extra pick or two in a below average draft to fix the problems facing the system.

[Monahammer]

I wonder if we see Brandon Sutter offered a contract. I wouldn't want it to be more than... 1.5 Mil? Even that seems high.

[Ragnar]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I wonder if we see Brandon Sutter offered a contract. I wouldn't want it to be more than... 1.5 Mil? Even that seems high.

I'd take him on the 4th line for sure. Can probably fill in higher in the lineup when injuries happen.

[Sandman]

Yeah I would be good with Brandon Sutter.

[handgroen]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Only if those decent linemates are named McDavid and Draisaitl.

You post different since they gave you back this username

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by cowtown75

I got to think about what you said about offensive consistency on this team and got curious about an offensive comparison between Eichel and Monahan since Eichel started in 2015-16 as Monahan had a two year start on him with already two 20 plus goal years so I started the comparison at 2015-16. Now, I'm only comparing stats here and not the players overall, but, this is what I've come up with since 2015-16 :

Monahan / Eichel
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GP- 435 GP- 375
G - 151 (0.35%) G - 139 (0.37%)
A - 192 (0.44%) A- 216 (0.58%)
Pts- 343 (0.79) Pts- 355 (0.94)
PPG - 48 (0.11%) PPG- 41 (0.11%)
PPP - 104 (0.24%) PPP- 127 (0.34%)
GWG- 35 GWG - 25
OTG - 7 OTG - 8
S% - 13.7 S% - 10.5
F/O% - 50.9 % F/O% - 44.1 %

I found the numbers interesting. It tells me that Eichel scores over a third of his points on the PP and Monahan just under a quarter so Monahan actually scores more on 5x5 which I thought was interesting. Also interesting that their goals per game were very similar but Eichel had the advantage in assists thus his Points per game was better but their PPG % was identical.

I had to knock Monahan's GWG from 45 (best in league since 2013-14) to 35 to match the 2015-16 starting point and on-

I had no idea about how terrible Eichel's F/O% or S% was until I looked this up. I'm not saying that Monahan is equal to Eichel at all here but sometimes it's surprising to look at Monahan's stats and realize how consistent and productive he has been in his career thus far. I wouldn't say either is a defensive specialist or physically hard to play against. I don't know the advanced stats on the two and barely know how to read those, but I thought it was fun to compare statistically wise.

Props for making the analysis! I stand corrected.

Personally, I’d rather go for someone else at this point. Starting to think the Eichel price tag is a bit much and I’d rather try and get wingers that can push Dube to the third line with Backlund and Lucic.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

If that was the case the Coyotes wouldn't have him available. He's 25 years old with a career high of 38 points (I do realize he was on pace for over 40 points in an 82 game season but still). He's barely on pace for 2nd line center potential. Not saying he's a bad player but I don't think he's an upgrade on any of the top 3 centers the Flames currently have.

I think he still has potential. It was clear back then (and still is) that he was the third best forward to Marner and Tkachuk, but I would be pretty stoked if we found a way to reunite that line. Chemistry goes a long way. Obviously, there’s a distinct difference between OHL and NHL hockey, but you can’t deny the chemistry they had.

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Garland+Dvorak for Monahan+kylington?

AZ gets boned, really bad.

Originally Posted by flamesgod

What type of deal do you guys think Hall will be looking for? Something like the 6x6 special?

I thought I read somewhere Hall was likely doing a bridge deal, so maybe a 3 year, 20m deal. I think his stint in Boston earned himself some term with somewhat good $’s.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Come on, let’s be serious. Our prospects are way below average to not good. We have Zary and Pelletier as our best, and neither of them have top line potential. If they develop we’ll get a couple middle six players, which is acceptable for where they were drafted. Wolf and Kuznetsov are probably the next best, but a lot of that can be contributed to the lack of depth in the system. Where they stack up against other prospects at their positions is not overly high. After that, we are on the short end of the prospect stick. The Flames have a bunch of long shots, but that is understandable when you’re picking in the 4th through 7th rounds. You don’t get many quality players in those rounds and the Flames’ system is reflective of that.



A great spot? Well, we’ll be seeing an improvement, but so will most teams in the league as they add prospects to their systems as well. The Flames are several drafts away from being in a great position, and that is on,y if the scouts come through and pick some kids that actually develop. We’re prospect poor and we need more than an extra pick or two in a below average draft to fix the problems facing the system.

also Emilio Pettersson, but I agree with the comments... I haven't been too impressed with amateur scouting, though many have a different opinion.

No one really will know until they get to the NHL, that said, out of the prospects we have, there's maybe 5 guys that will be NHL regulars?

Are there any except for Zary and Pelletier that could be first line players? I mean, I don't see it, but hope I am wrong

[Tkachukwagon]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1415303186919960578

Andersen likely on the move

[stang]

Originally Posted by Tkachukwagon

https://twitter.com/user/status/1415303186919960578

Andersen likely on the move

Wonder if Edmonton makes a run at him. Although Dreidger is rumoured to be wanting only 3.5 mil

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Yeah, I view him as a younger Backlund which is still valuable but not a #1C on any good team.

He is much more offensively talented than Backlund. Get him out of the desert where he has been misused and put him with decent talent and he will absolutely rip it up. Watch and see if he moves. Now people will call me crazy like they always do when I predict something and I will knock it out of the park like I always do and then people will pile on for me posting I told you so. Rinse and repeat.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by stang

Wonder if Edmonton makes a run at him. Although Dreidger is rumoured to be wanting only 3.5 mil

And exactly where is Edmonton getting over $5M in cap to pay Andersen? You guys can't afford him.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by stang

Wonder if Edmonton makes a run at him. Although Dreidger is rumoured to be wanting only 3.5 mil

Does that mean a Neal or Koskinen buyout is on the way?

What a glorious time to be in.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Does that mean a Neal or Koskinen buyout is on the way?

What a glorious time to be in.

Oilers fans are planning a parade for when Neal is bought out