2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Paulie Walnuts]

Lindholm plays a premium position though I would think his value is a bit higher.

Maybe a Johnson 22 and a 2nd for Lindholm and 16?

[Sec214]

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Lindholm plays a premium position though I would think his value is a bit higher.

Maybe a Johnson 22 and a 2nd for Lindholm and 16?

Fiala and Reinhart had control though so balances out in my opinion

[Mass_nerder]

Sillinger+ seems reasonable, but I think Johnson is a dream.

[FlamesAddiction]

If the goal is to get Huberdeau to rebound, then we need to have a #1 center. If not Lindholm, then who?

It would suck to lose Lindholm for nothing, but if keeping him helps to revalue Huberdeau in a positive way, then the tradeoff might be worth it.

I think my plan would be to keep Lindholm unless you were absolutely sure you could bring in a #1 center, then assess at the trade deadline. I would not go into next season without a #1 center though.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

If the goal is to get Huberdeau to rebound, then we need to have a #1 center. If not Lindholm, then who?

It would suck to lose Lindholm for nothing, but if keeping him helps to revalue Huberdeau in a positive way, then the tradeoff might be worth it.

I think my plan would be to keep Lindholm unless you were absolutely sure you could bring in a #1 center, then assess at the trade deadline. I would not go into next season without a #1 center though.

What’s the upside there though? Lindholm says he is out for sure and walks for nothing and your hope would be Huberdeau has a good season and a team trades for him?

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by traptor

This template makes alot of sense for both sides.
I think i'd prefer Boqvist over Marchenko though, as we don't have much for young Defenders and Boqvist has a top pairing ceiling as a right show D man.


Slim chance it happens but I would be trying to get Kent Johnson out of them.

Marchenko’s shot is elite - deadly from anywhere on the ice. The sort of guy you’d want Huberdeau feeding pucks to. Flames don’t have anybody who can shoot it like him.

Him + one of Sillinger or Johnson for Lindholm would do it for me - add in a 1st for a sign and trade.

[Bonded]

I also don’t really see Columbus as the trading partner. Lindholm won’t make them a contender and if he is going to go there cause of Gaudreau they’ll just wait. I think he’ll end up the Hurricanes if the Panthers bounce them

[Beninho]

I’d rather trade him then overpay another player. I like Lindholm but he is not a play driver, tons of games where you forgot he was playing last season. If you can get a haul that’s a good move. Hopefully Conroy learned the lesson Tre could not. You do not leave contracts till the last year.

[transplant99]

Maybe Im wrong but IMO there is no scenario where the Jackets trade 20 KJ (who had a tremendous rookie campaign) for a 1 year away from UFA, 28 YO C.

Its not like they are in a window to contend, so i would imagine they prefer building from within for a year or 2 more.

I can see them being interested in Lindholm but not at the expense of their top young guy. Makes no sense.

[Mass_nerder]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

If the goal is to get Huberdeau to rebound, then we need to have a #1 center. If not Lindholm, then who?

It would suck to lose Lindholm for nothing, but if keeping him helps to revalue Huberdeau in a positive way, then the tradeoff might be worth it.

I think my plan would be to keep Lindholm unless you were absolutely sure you could bring in a #1 center, then assess at the trade deadline. I would not go into next season without a #1 center though.

Huberdeau's contract is bad, even if he rebounds, because of his age and the where the team is in terms of being competitive. I think it's a mistake to try to sign other "older" players to 8 year contracts to try to salvage Huberdeau.

Beyond that, we can't just walk another high skill player to free agency (if the rumors about him not being interested in another contract here); we're already bottom 10 (5?) for prospect depth. Hoping you can change the player's mind over the course of (what I assume will be a hectic) season is really terrible asset management.

[Roof-Daddy]

I didn't realize Sillinger back slid this season and ended up in the AHL for some time. Doesn't look like he lit the world on fire down there either.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Mass_nerder

Sillinger+ seems reasonable, but I think Johnson is a dream.

Then maybe you sweeten the pot. Getting a young centre that projects as a #1 should be paramount to this organization. If you are going to move Lindholm you put him on the market soon and take your time, let the bidding war grow. I don't see the upside in Sillinger to be that #1 C.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I also don’t really see Columbus as the trading partner. Lindholm won’t make them a contender and if he is going to go there cause of Gaudreau they’ll just wait. I think he’ll end up the Hurricanes if the Panthers bounce them

The problem with the Hurricanes is unless it is Necas there is nothing available there. They are not moving Aho so what do the Flames need to add to Lindholm to get Necas?

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Maybe Im wrong but IMO there is no scenario where the Jackets trade 20 KJ (who had a tremendous rookie campaign) for a 1 year away from UFA, 28 YO C.

Its not like they are in a window to contend, so i would imagine they prefer building from within for a year or 2 more.

I can see them being interested in Lindholm but not at the expense of their top young guy. Makes no sense.

Agreed about Johnson which is why I don't see a trade available with them. They can be interested in Lindholm but unless there is something were they bend on Johnson it's simply a no go from our point of view imo.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Bonded

What’s the upside there though? Lindholm says he is out for sure and walks for nothing and your hope would be Huberdeau has a good season and a team trades for him?

If they can get Huberdeau up to being a PPG player or better next season, increasing his trade value would be one benefit. If we ended up losing Lindholm, having a tradeable Huberdeau would give the team a lot more flexibility after that. Even if there were still no takers on that contract, or if the team didn't want to trade him, a big rebound season would create some gravity when it comes to luring a potential replacement for Lindholm.

If Huberdeau has another 50-60 point season next year, I think it would be catastrophic for the team in the future. Not only would we be stuck with that contract for the following 7 years, but it would make it even harder to bring in good players to play with with him. I am not sure that whatever we get for Lindholm would make up for the negatives that another poor Huberdeau season would give us. That's why I think everything needs to be done to get his numbers up next season.

[Mass_nerder]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Then maybe you sweeten the pot. Getting a young centre that projects as a #1 should be paramount to this organization. If you are going to move Lindholm you put him on the market soon and take your time, let the bidding war grow. I don't see the upside in Sillinger to be that #1 C.

It would be nice to bring someone like Johnson, but he looked great last season and was is a recent top 5 pick
I can't see Columbus being in a rush to send him out in exchange for a 28 year old with one season left. I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest he could match Lindholm's stats next season.
Sillinger had a pretty big regression from his first to his second season, so I could see Columbus being more willing to part with him for a player like Lindholm.

[TheScorpion]

There's no world in which Columbus gives up Johnson for Lindholm. Makes absolutely no sense for that team. I think we see Lindholm extended.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Mass_nerder

It would be nice to bring someone like Johnson, but he looked great last season and was is a recent top 5 pick
I can't see Columbus being in a rush to send him out in exchange for a 28 year old with one season left. I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest he could match Lindholm's stats next season.
Sillinger had a pretty big regression from his first to his second season, so I could see Columbus being more willing to part with him for a player like Lindholm.

Iu agree with this which is why there is no trade there. I am sure they would do Sillinger for Lindholm which would be an absolute loss for us. If the Flames move Lindholm they need to bring in a guy who can replace him now or in the very near future, even if you have to add to Lindholm to do so. I guess a lot depends to on if they feel they can sign Lindholm to a long term extension. The Flames would be better served waiting on a better offer, even if you move him at the trade deadline how much is a 70 point Selke caliber C worth at dirty cheap salary? If the Flames move Lindholm they have to slam dunk that trade.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

If they can get Huberdeau up to being a PPG player or better next season, increasing his trade value would be one benefit. If we ended up losing Lindholm, having a tradeable Huberdeau would give the team a lot more flexibility after that. Even if there were still no takers on that contract, or if the team didn't want to trade him, a big rebound season would create some gravity when it comes to luring a potential replacement for Lindholm.

If Huberdeau has another 50-60 point season next year, I think it would be catastrophic for the team in the future. Not only would we be stuck with that contract for the following 7 years, but it would make it even harder to bring in good players to play with with him. I am not sure that whatever we get for Lindholm would make up for the negatives that another poor Huberdeau season would give us. That's why I think everything needs to be done to get his numbers up next season.

Just....no. Absolutely not.

The franchise simply cannot Gaudreau this one. It would set them back even further than they are.

IMO its either an extension before draft day or gonzo in a deal. You cannot let Lindy just walk or wait til the deadline in case of poor performance and/or injury.

Conroy is going directly into the fire after Tuesdays presser which I suspect is why the Nonis addition is immediate as well.

That group has a LOT of work to do in a short time.