Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[MoneyGuy]

This has upset Theo

https://twitter.com/user/status/1707168427851317570

[Whynotnow]

Originally Posted by Faust

The Breakdown

On CBC yesterday, Smith claimed that CEO’s who built new power plants would be incarcerated if plants weren’t “almost 100% abated” by 2035.

And then CBC fact checked her.

It’s an embarrassment every day in this province…

#abpoli #ableg #cdnpoli

https://twitter.com/thebreakdownab/s...029564333?s=21

Unfortunately no amount of fact checking will stop the false narrative from spreading.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by redforever

Well this is frightening

https://calgaryherald.com/opinion/columnists/braid-24

"Braid: As attendance soars for UCP meeting, Smith tries to blunt Take Back Alberta drive. Control of the party apparatus is what's at stake here, with serious potential for another UCP upheaval"

It’s actually encouraging. Let the extremists tear apart of the Alberta right yet again.

[Roughneck]

The mere creation of the UCP was an indicator that the right would rather cede control to the crazies than not be in power.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

It’s actually encouraging. Let the extremists tear apart of the Alberta right yet again.

Are you forgetting the part where all Albertans are collateral damage for another 3.5 years? Because I don't find that thought very encouraging.

[Whynotnow]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Are you forgetting the part where all Albertans are collateral damage for another 3.5 years? Because I don't find that thought very encouraging.

Especially because Smith has not shown any principles or morals at all. She wants to cling to power and will bend to the extreme to retain it. She’s the most dangerous politician of all from that point of view. Doesn’t matter if you are right wing or left wing, if you are unwilling to convince your own side that hye are too extreme and to follow you, you aren’t a leader.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by monahammer

1 + 1 = window level analysis here.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1707744125708321165

[Whynotnow]

At the end of the day the populatiin growth has two factors I would think. One, a large existing Ukrainian population likely instrumental in helping with settlement of people fleeing the war(the entire landscaping crew in our yard this year was from Ukraine).

The second, is the Carville quote - it’s the economy stupid. That said, we are losing important people. Anesthesiologists and surgeons are leaving, big time. You can be an attractive place to come for only so long, but stop building hospitals and schools and chase away the people needed to run them and that gets dicey. So maybe, maybe instead of picking a fight over an already well run pension plan take care of the things you are supposed to.

[Fuzz]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1707820533579133273


Anyone else in love with this reality where we spend our tax dollars to pay for a diesel truck to drive around Ottawa to show the rest of the country just how serious we are about ####ing up the planet?

[Roughneck]

Remember when Ottawa wanted to build a pipeline to Ontario and Quebec to help create national energy security via stable and affordable supply across the country, and in response 'Let the bastards freeze in the dark' became a rallying cry and popular bumper sticker?

[Ozy_Flame]

It's not the economy. It's simply housing costs. That's basically it. Calgary is a great balance between attractive city and home prices, but even the latter part of that balance is quickly fading.

Conservatives can chalk it up to whatever lubes their willy best, but ultimately this is mostly fallout from Ontario and BC. And it doesn't say anything at all about the best and brightest. In fact, those folks who earn high income in the best and brightest job sectors probably have less of a reason to find cheaper housing elsewhere with more money in their pocket.

Let's not forget that bringing in a bunch of gen z urbanites from liberal cities also waters down the conservative support considerably.

[Whynotnow]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

It's not the economy. It's simply housing costs. That's basically it. Calgary is a great balance between attractive city and home prices, but even the latter part of that balance is quickly fading.

Conservatives can chalk it up to whatever lubes their willy best, but ultimately this is mostly fallout from Ontario and BC. And it doesn't say anything at all about the best and brightest. In fact, those folks who earn high income in the best and brightest job sectors probably have less of a reason to find cheaper housing elsewhere with more money in their pocket.

Let's not forget that bringing in a bunch of gen z urbanites from liberal cities also waters down the conservative support considerably.

I was equating cheap real estate with peoples economic situation but didn’t state that.

[flamesfever]

Originally Posted by Roughneck

Remember when Ottawa wanted to build a pipeline to Ontario and Quebec to help create national energy security via stable and affordable supply across the country, and in response 'Let the bastards freeze in the dark' became a rallying cry and popular bumper sticker?

Misinformation

Trans Canada pipeline completed October, 1958

National Energy Program (NEP) in effect from 1980 to 1985

[PsYcNeT]

Step 1: Lift energy caps

Step 2: Allow energy costs to skyrocket by 128%, more than 2x as much as the rest of the country

Step 3: ???

Step 4: Blame the Feds

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

Misinformation

Trans Canada pipeline completed October, 1958

National Energy Program (NEP) in effect from 1980 to 1985

I don't think a natural gas pipeline was the solution to Canada's oil supply concerns in the 70s that prompted the NEP in the first place.



The TC pipeline did prove that when the feds wanted energy security they were willing to follow through on it. Similar to the natural gas before it, there was a desire to bypass American markets to get Canadian oil from west to east that was a basis of the NEP.

[Whynotnow]

Originally Posted by Roughneck

I don't think a natural gas pipeline was the solution to Canada's oil supply concerns in the 70s that prompted the NEP in the first place.



The TC pipeline did prove that when the feds wanted energy security they were willing to follow through on it. Similar to the natural gas before it, there was a desire to bypass American markets to get Canadian oil from west to east that was a basis of the NEP.

It also sought to basically nationalize the industry to a large extent by fixing the price of oil and gas at a Canadian price, which would’ve decimated investment. Nothing to cheer for that.

Infrastructure is not really that much of an issue anymore for the industry, I mean industry would always love an over supply for their purposes but we are close to a decent balance today. The time for large investment in long linear infrastructure has basically passed us by. Massive mistakes were made but I don’t see anybody credible putting forth their investment dollars to build something today.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by Whynotnow

It also sought to basically nationalize the industry to a large extent by fixing the price of oil and gas at a Canadian price, which would’ve decimated investment. Nothing to cheer for that.

Infrastructure is not really that much of an issue anymore for the industry, I mean industry would always love an over supply for their purposes but we are close to a decent balance today. The time for large investment in long linear infrastructure has basically passed us by. Massive mistakes were made but I don’t see anybody credible putting forth their investment dollars to build something today.

That’s because they aren’t economic, and part of the reason is the astronomical regulatory and consulting costs. There are a couple lines being worked on now though.

[Whynotnow]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

That’s because they aren’t economic, and part of the reason is the astronomical regulatory and consulting costs. There are a couple lines being worked on now though.

For sure the cost uncertainty created by an unfavourable regulatory regime is a big drag. Add to that the length of contracts required to backstop anything massive are starting to stretch the life of some of the plants. For oil, with TMX in service we will be a touch long in capacity out of the basin. Enbridge can probably do another few hundred thousand barrels per day as quoted recently. That probably exceeds what most would think we need for the medium term. Customers probably won’t sign the contracts and there’s not a pipeline company out there building without the backstop.

Natural gas is a bit different, we could probably support some more LNG export and if we can tidy up the regulatory environment it would probably spur a bit more but even those are pretty risky these days. Look at the damage coastal gas link is doing to TCE.

[flamesfever]

Originally Posted by Roughneck

I don't think a natural gas pipeline was the solution to Canada's oil supply concerns in the 70s that prompted the NEP in the first place.



The TC pipeline did prove that when the feds wanted energy security they were willing to follow through on it. Similar to the natural gas before it, there was a desire to bypass American markets to get Canadian oil from west to east that was a basis of the NEP.

It's a long complicated story with many side issues, and would take something the size of an encyclopedia to do it justice.

[Fuzz]

How a normal person gets a Covid-19 vaccine:


1)Book an appointment.
2)Get injection.


How our dear leader gets a covid-19 vaccine.






Drug that cannot be named? Was she taking Ivermectin prophylactically? Who TF is her "doctor" and how does he have a license?