2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

That’s a dumb reason to not coach the team to the best of their abilities

He wants them to play his way. The only way he thinks they can win.

But he went over the top

He also had a few ass holes that already got their money and think they can have their way.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by bluejays

The most ideal situation is to get out from under Markstrom's contract to a sucker who will take the chance on him. There are always suckers. Media members today think of the guy as vezina calibre! If the Flames take on a stop-gap goaltender who can take on 45 games while giving Wolf some, that would be great. If Treliving ends up in Toronto, it would be great to trade Markstrom there if he believes in him, for the contract of Murray (stash him on the IR for next year). Then sign Blackwood to a show me contract for a couple seasons to ease Wolf, and that should be a nice tandem for a couple years.

If indeed Murray can be stashed on IR for the year, Toronto will simply do it. Toronto is starved for cap, they would jump at that chance.

No one is taking Marty’s contract without moving out real cap.

[Vinny01]

If Treliving does become GM of the Leafs maybe my crazy proposal with Lindholm, Hanifin, and Markstrom for Marner and Murray (and possible toss in of Gio) makes some sense.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

If Treliving does become GM of the Leafs maybe my crazy proposal with Lindholm, Hanifin, and Markstrom for Marner and Murray (and possible toss in of Gio) makes some sense.

While I would love to snag marner for the flames , trading lindholm and Hanifin and not getting back a center in trade, would be game over for the flames.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

While I would love to snag marner for the flames , trading lindholm and Hanifin and not getting back a center in trade, would be game over for the flames.

You kind of have to want Marner for Lindholm and Huberdeau to work with. That's a pretty sturdy top line IMO.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

If Treliving does become GM of the Leafs maybe my crazy proposal with Lindholm, Hanifin, and Markstrom for Marner and Murray (and possible toss in of Gio) makes some sense.

Something tells me Huberdeau and Marner probably wouldn’t work too well together

[Poison]

I think us and the Leafs will make good trade partners for what each other needs.
Tree can trade to get Naz back over there since he loves him so much.
Would Hanifin + pick for Nylander be in the ballpark?

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Poison

I think us and the Leafs will make good trade partners for what each other needs.
Tree can trade to get Naz back over there since he loves him so much.
Would Hanfin + picks for Nylander be in the ballpark?

I think if we had to add anything at all to Hanifin it would be a very small add. I think the value is fairly even.

[Steve Bozek]

All Toronto players are overrated by the press and Calgary GMs seem to get sucked in. Hence the Gilmour/Macoun trade for a bag of pucks, and the Phaneuf trade. A trade for Nylander would probably decimate the Flames.

[memphusk]

And leave Giordano at home. He's where he belongs. No need for him to come back.

[bluejays]

Let's look at the Leafs top 4 forwards assuming one gets dealt before July 1st, and what a trade for the Flames would look like given their current contract situations:
Matthews (contract expires next year): franchise player, can score and does play a two way game. Negative is mostly that he won't play a physical game in the tough areas like the slot

What it would take to get him: Matthews for 3 1sts + Lindholm + Tanev
Why it could work: a look at a franchise player with a generational shot

Marner (contract expires after another 2 seasons): gifted playmaker who can score and has patience to set up plays both N-S, and E-W. Negative is that when he's feeling press pressure or he gets physically bullied, he goes silent for long stretches.

What it would take to get him: Marner for 2 1sts + 2nd + Lindholm
Why it could work: Marners' skill could be huge for Huberdeau's resurgence. Could also trade him next off-season if no interest in resigning

Nylander (contract expires next year): another gifted goalscorer who can pass and score timely goals. Mostly a N-S skater. Negative is when not inspired tends to have stretches where he doesn't score. Also not physical in the slot but sometimes can take a hit.

What it would take to get him: Nylander for Toffoli, 1st
Why it could work: Flames get faster to have someone to play with Huberdeau

Tavares (contract expires in another 2 seasons): mostly a silent scorer who tries hard to lead by example. Negative is he's not very fast, doesn't get physical, tending to score mostly from the high slot. Doesn't offer much bang for buck.

What it would take to get him: Tavares + 1st, 2nd for Markstrom
Why it could work: Flames get out from Markstrom's term for taking on salary with extra draft capital coming back for doing so

[Spurs]

I can’t see how Toronto makes any of those deals but it f Conroy can pull one of those off more power to him.

I don’t think Calgary and Toronto make good trading partners since they both want to win and both have the same issues.

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by Spurs

I can’t see how Toronto makes any of those deals but it f Conroy can pull one of those off more power to him.

I don’t think Calgary and Toronto make good trading partners since they both want to win and both have the same issues.

I think Toronto and Calgary make perfect trading partners. Leafs need some interior dirty goal scorers. Calgary needs more playmaking skill. Flames have a ton of guys (quite literally) who Toronto could use (ignore the cap for a second). Coleman, Dube, Lindholm, Kadri, Toffoli. To a large degree each of those guys can score down low with dirty goals much like Tkachuk is doing right now. I really think for the first time in awhile a Leafs/Flames swap of talent makes a lot of sense.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by bluejays

I think Toronto and Calgary make perfect trading partners. Leafs need some interior dirty goal scorers. Calgary needs more playmaking skill. Flames have a ton of guys (quite literally) who Toronto could use (ignore the cap for a second). Coleman, Dube, Lindholm, Kadri, Toffoli. To a large degree each of those guys can score down low with dirty goals much like Tkachuk is doing right now. I really think for the first time in awhile a Leafs/Flames swap of talent makes a lot of sense.

I don't see how. Any trade that would involve us getting one of their good players would require us to give up one of our top guys negating the benefit of getting their top player.

For them guys like Coleman, Kadri are terrible fits because they already have cap issues so adding guys with bad deals doesn't work. Plus with Kadri they have Tavares and Matthews already so paying 7 million for a 3rd line center would be insane.

I just don't see why the Leafs would want to make big downgrades for our players while also not helping their cap out at all. For us I can't see us adding pieces to upgrade to make us slightly better non-contenders.

[butterfly]

Coleman's going nowhere, their family chose to go to Calgary because they thought it's similar to North Texas as a place to raise a family. Full NTC for another year.

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by bluejays

Let's look at the Leafs top 4 forwards assuming one gets dealt before July 1st, and what a trade for the Flames would look like given their current contract situations:
Matthews (contract expires next year): franchise player, can score and does play a two way game. Negative is mostly that he won't play a physical game in the tough areas like the slot

What it would take to get him: Matthews for 3 1sts + Lindholm + Tanev
Why it could work: a look at a franchise player with a generational shot

Marner (contract expires after another 2 seasons): gifted playmaker who can score and has patience to set up plays both N-S, and E-W. Negative is that when he's feeling press pressure or he gets physically bullied, he goes silent for long stretches.

What it would take to get him: Marner for 2 1sts + 2nd + Lindholm
Why it could work: Marners' skill could be huge for Huberdeau's resurgence. Could also trade him next off-season if no interest in resigning

Nylander (contract expires next year): another gifted goalscorer who can pass and score timely goals. Mostly a N-S skater. Negative is when not inspired tends to have stretches where he doesn't score. Also not physical in the slot but sometimes can take a hit.

What it would take to get him: Nylander for Toffoli, 1st
Why it could work: Flames get faster to have someone to play with Huberdeau

Tavares (contract expires in another 2 seasons): mostly a silent scorer who tries hard to lead by example. Negative is he's not very fast, doesn't get physical, tending to score mostly from the high slot. Doesn't offer much bang for buck.

What it would take to get him: Tavares + 1st, 2nd for Markstrom
Why it could work: Flames get out from Markstrom's term for taking on salary with extra draft capital coming back for doing so

I don't see any of those deals appealing for Toronto. For Calgary sure but not Toronto. And Tavares has a full nmc, family with three kids and he chose Toronto over the team that drafted him as an UFA. He isn't going anywhere.

[Dan403]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

If Treliving does become GM of the Leafs maybe my crazy proposal with Lindholm, Hanifin, and Markstrom for Marner and Murray (and possible toss in of Gio) makes some sense.

Terrible idea.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Saqe

I don't see any of those deals appealing for Toronto. For Calgary sure but not Toronto. And Tavares has a full nmc, family with three kids and he chose Toronto over the team that drafted him as an UFA. He isn't going anywhere.

I think they stink for Calgary.

[Enoch Root]

All terrible deals for Calgary - paying a ton of picks, plus top players, in order to acquire players whose contracts are overly inflated.

YOu want to never get out of cap hell? These trades will keep you there for a loooong time

[1qqaaz]

For me, it's the pick I have a problem with. The Flames are in no position to be trading 1sts on players who are UFA in a year.