2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[FlamesAddiction]

I'm not pining to trade Zary, but I do think that if the Flames are going to make a big trade for a top line player and Zary is the piece that moves the needle to make it happen, then you do it.

I love the way he plays, but I think he tops out as a middle 6 forward and likely a winger on most teams. I think our prospect pool has a few guys that have a chance to step into that role sooner rather than later. Add to that his injury problems over the years, and it makes more sense.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Why are the Flames trading for a top player ? They need to keep building. We need more young players. We need to push Huberdeau Kadri down the lineup.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I'm not pining to trade Zary, but I do think that if the Flames are going to make a big trade for a top line player and Zary is the piece that moves the needle to make it happen, then you do it.

I love the way he plays, but I think he tops out as a middle 6 forward and likely a winger on most teams. I think our prospect pool has a few guys that have a chance to step into that role sooner rather than later. Add to that his injury problems over the years, and it makes more sense.

Ras, Coleman, Kadri and Backlund will be gone before Zary IMO.

Zary is the only player of that crafty type on the team right now - maybe Frost is another.

[Sofa GM]

Would the Mammoth have any interest in Andersson? Would fit nicely on the right side in the top 4. Perhaps could target something around Hayton from the Mammoth.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Zary is one of the few who can carry the puck into the offensive zone and keep possession.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

Would the Mammoth have any interest in Andersson? Would fit nicely on the right side in the top 4. Perhaps could target something around Hayton from the Mammoth.

Barrett Hayton is 4 months younger than Farabee and has had the same amount of success that Farabee has had. I sure hope the Flames can get something better than Hayton for Rasmus.

Would definitely prefer picks or almost anything over Hayton from the Mammoth.

[CFO]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I don't see why Zary would be the odd man out. He'd have been right there with Coronato all year if not for injury. Did we forget he was the hottest player on the team for a stretch this year before his first injury?

I'd wager Zary is a part of the management teams long term plans. Just have to get over the injury hurdle. Backs was the same way his first few years and look how that panned out.

Patience fanbase, patience.

Position wise where does he fit? For guys like zary to grow and take a step he needs legit top 2 line icetime and pp.

In short term he isn't going to bounce Huberdeau or Kadri.

I don't see him playing RW. So leaves 2 spots and I think Frist has #2 center spot unless he fails to grab it.

That leaves #2lw spot with competition.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Why are the Flames trading for a top player ? They need to keep building. We need more young players. We need to push Huberdeau Kadri down the lineup.

If it's a young player that is also a top liner or at least no worse than 2nd liner, I think that counts as continuing to build.

[Royle9]

Hayton doesn’t move the needle at all.
We’ve got Haytons on the farm.

We need Rasmus for picks.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

If it's a young player that is also a top liner or at least no worse than 2nd liner, I think that counts as continuing to build.

I haven’t read of names available that fit that criteria.

For me it has to be a 1st liner and 23 or younger. We have enough middle 6 forwards.

The team needs needle movers. Guys who can take over a game. We have an overflow of wingers as well.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

I don't blame him for Huby ####ting the bed for two seasons before finding his game. That's on Jonathan. Plus we got Weegar and a pick, which is awesome. I was dazzled with the trade at the time, but freaked out at the contracts right after which as I recall were not really necessary so soon after the trade.

GMBT can be a bad GM while making a few good trades. The two are not mutually exclusive.

Looking at his body of work, he is a one step forward two steps back guy that values scrubs with intangibles over draft picks. So far, that approach has won his teams almost nothing in the regular season (a couple of division titles?) and nothing in the post season (3-4 rounds in total?). All the while detonating his team's future.

So yeah, GMBT = NG

We had 2 guys leave and got 2 guys on expiring contracts. I think getting them signed was a big storyline and needed to be done. We couldn’t go into another season with 2 high profile pending free agents.

[CFO]

I'm not saying kyrou is available but there seems to be mid aged rfas like him available every year where a zary+ type of deal always seems to snag them.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Kyrou is signed for 6 more years.

Flames are also not in a position for a Zary plus trade. They still need to get rid of players and accumulate more picks and younger players before we dabble in free agency and trades.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Kyrou is signed for 6 more years.

Flames are also not in a position for a Zary plus trade. They still need to get rid of players and accumulate more picks and younger players before we dabble in free agency and trades.

Man part of the fun of the off-season is speculating on possible ways to improve the team. But it's tiresome when literally every post is greeted the same way by you. I can't recall a single time when a player is tossed out there and you don't reply with the stuff. And it's particularly irritating because you post a incredibly high volume of posts.
We all know how you feel. You don't need to post it every time.
Let the rest of us have some fun and discuss.

[CFO]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Kyrou is signed for 6 more years.

Flames are also not in a position for a Zary plus trade. They still need to get rid of players and accumulate more picks and younger players before we dabble in free agency and trades.

Why I said a kyrou like player.

I don't agree. Flames have accumulated a ton of depth prospects in last 2 years. Now they need to focus on legit quality. Unless they bridge wolf which I hope they do not. The flames sign him to 8 years and the window to win starts in those 8 years. So the flames need to improve the team infront of him asap to avoid wasting years of a #1 goalie.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by CFO

Why I said a kyrou like player.

I don't agree. Flames have accumulated a ton of depth prospects in last 2 years. Now they need to focus on legit quality. Unless they bridge wolf which I hope they do not. The flames sign him to 8 years and the window to win starts in those 8 years. So the flames need to improve the team infront of him asap to avoid wasting years of a #1 goalie.

Building around a goalie is the wrong way to go because of how inconsistent even the best ones are.

I do agree we need to get quality but I think the quality they need is top line talent. Obviously the biggest hole we have had is #1C.

But we still have guys to sell off like Coleman and Andersson to get more picks.

I think Zary is a piece for our core group so unless a Matthew Tkachuk of 3 years ago pops up in trade talks I wouldn’t trade him along with picks.

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

I defended Treliving but as they pelled back how he operated you can understand the hate. He was good at player for player trades and RFA contracts but he would go out and ruin anything good he did with horrific UFA moves, moving entire draft classes for junk like Jarnkrok and zero idea on coaches.

Being cheap on like stars Gaudreau and Tkachuk so he can spend money further down the roster undid any good.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by BigThief

Being cheap on like stars Gaudreau and Tkachuk so he can spend money further down the roster undid any good.

Yup. Going out and spending on a Brouwer and trading for Hamonic.

Grinding them in negotiations to have cheap cap hits and wasting the extra space on bums when we could have tried to get some good players to go for it.

Missing out on Stome and going after Jason Zucker before the Tkachuk extension. Wasting picks on 7th defenceman and forwards who didn’t even play for us.

It’s unfortunate he was able to just walk away after leaving the team in shambles the way he did and jump on to team with a core already in place. He should hsve been fired just like Sutter.

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Man part of the fun of the off-season is speculating on possible ways to improve the team. But it's tiresome when literally every post is greeted the same way by you. I can't recall a single time when a player is tossed out there and you don't reply with the stuff. And it's particularly irritating because you post a incredibly high volume of posts.
We all know how you feel. You don't need to post it every time.
Let the rest of us have some fun and discuss.

It's so easy to ignore a poster like Paulie Walnuts and continue the discussion with someone else. I don't know why the "rest of us" can't just ignore one guy and continue with every other poster.

[Flames1217]

Ideally speaking, Rasmus is moved for a Centre.

I would like to see Conroy be creative though. Find an RFA who is refusing to sign with the team or hassling them and trade for thier respective rights. I would also be willing to move one of the other firsts for a top 6 quality centre.

If you retain, Rasmus becomes a very quality asset and is young enough for a contender to consider signing him long term.