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Old 06-25-2025, 10:52 PM   #1461
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Can’t see Buffalo doing this for a couple reasons. One, Andersson likely wouldn’t resign there so they aren’t giving up Helenius for a rental. And they just acquired Kesselring so they addressed their RD.
I do wonder if they'd still be interested, Kesselring doesn't fill the top pair RH spot:

If you look at slotting right now:

Dahlin - ?
Power - Kesselring
Samuelsson - Clifton/Bernard-Docker

I still think something around Byram and Andersson could make sense.

It's less likely but I don't think it closes their interest completely.
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Old 06-25-2025, 10:54 PM   #1462
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Perry was was the Oilers 3rd or 4th best forward...as sad as that is
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Old 06-25-2025, 10:56 PM   #1463
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I mean Arvidsson + pick for his 4M cap for a year is something I’d do for sure. RS RW. Used to be dece. Worth it if free
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Old 06-25-2025, 11:00 PM   #1464
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Massive overpay wtf?

I would do that deal in a second. Also, Crouse is not a cap dump. Poor season last year, but I would love to have Crouse on the Flames.
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Old 06-25-2025, 11:02 PM   #1465
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Hopefully Perry leaves Edmonton. He was their most consistent playoff performer, and I just hate seeing his face in our division. He should head out East in Florida or Toronto to whoever loses out on Marchand. Or go back to Dallas to get revenge on Edmonton next season.
Or retire and never return.
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Old 06-25-2025, 11:09 PM   #1466
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You know you’re an awful GM when you are giving Viktor Arvidsson a NMC.
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All these deals the Oilers media and basically all of SN to be honest told us were steals and hometown discounts are now cap dumps with little or no return
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Old 06-25-2025, 11:37 PM   #1468
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After the Kane trade we all know someone will take Arvidsson off their hands. Teams helping out the Oilers (especially in the same division) is baffling.
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Old 06-25-2025, 11:38 PM   #1469
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Helping them bring back the same team with worse depth...who cares

like I said earlier they don't beat LA without Kane
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Old 06-25-2025, 11:44 PM   #1470
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The trade for Peterka was a pretty underwhelming return. I am fully expecting a not great return for Andersson now.
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Old 06-25-2025, 11:53 PM   #1471
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The trade for Peterka was a pretty underwhelming return. I am fully expecting a not great return for Andersson now.
Perhaps you missed it. Peterka is the winger. Kesselring is the RD. If you want to somehow infer the value of Andersson you should look at the guy who plays the same position, not a totally different position.

Andersson is a much, much better RD than Kesselring and Kesselring was one of two pieces to land Peterka.

Following the logic: Andersson+ should be able to fetch a much better piece than Peterka.
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Perhaps you missed it. Peterka is the winger. Kesselring is the RD. If you want to somehow infer the value of Andersson you should look at the guy who plays the same position, not a totally different position.

Andersson is a much, much better RD than Kesselring and Kesselring was one of two pieces to land Peterka.

Following the logic: Andersson+ should be able to fetch a much better piece than Peterka.
Thank you for your insight and analysis.
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Old 06-26-2025, 12:11 AM   #1473
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Watch Perry sign in Florida.

Bennett Tkachuk Perry and Marchand

That would be something to watch
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Old 06-26-2025, 12:31 AM   #1474
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Watch Perry sign in Florida.

Bennett Tkachuk Perry and Marchand

That would be something to watch

I don’t think florida has designs of losing in the final next year
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Old 06-26-2025, 12:59 AM   #1475
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Old 06-26-2025, 01:56 AM   #1476
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Watch Perry sign in Florida.

Bennett Tkachuk Perry and Marchand

That would be something to watch
Has he reached superstition level yet?
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“He has an opportunity to renovate not just the kitchen but the whole house, Ownership trusts who has the keys for now”

“I expect others may want to explore different opportunities…Kadri is the question mark…Coleman likely and Backlund Cup or Legacy he has to make a choice …The culture of the organization is stronger then ever. Connie has the pulse of organization at his finger tips, the young guys believe him that if they push a vet they’ll get a spot proven by Wolf”

“The floor is cheap and the new building isn’t a concern for ownership, Market is Canadian, they’ll show up to watch the youth finish bottom 10 for a year or two”

“Ras leaving would be the turning of the page…new era of flames hockey”

“5.5 to 7.5 AAV in the new cap is 4.5M today lots of team see value at the moment where as before it may have been a over payment”

“Flames have some analytics and projections that other teams aren’t using and I’ve heard it’s AOTC… a few years ago people thought they over complicated it”

“Buffalo wins and Utah Wins. KRinger is a SOB, Doans kid is a Mean SOB KA buying young PnV- JJ overrated by a few teams… that contract will be someone’s job IMO”
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“He has an opportunity to renovate not just the kitchen but the whole house, Ownership trusts who has the keys for now”

“I expect others may want to explore different opportunities…Kadri is the question mark…Coleman likely and Backlund Cup or Legacy he has to make a choice …The culture of the organization is stronger then ever. Connie has the pulse of organization at his finger tips, the young guys believe him that if they push a vet they’ll get a spot proven by Wolf”

“The floor is cheap and the new building isn’t a concern for ownership, Market is Canadian, they’ll show up to watch the youth finish bottom 10 for a year or two”

“Ras leaving would be the turning of the page…new era of flames hockey”

“5.5 to 7.5 AAV in the new cap is 4.5M today lots of team see value at the moment where as before it may have been a over payment”

“Flames have some analytics and projections that other teams aren’t using and I’ve heard it’s AOTC… a few years ago people thought they over complicated it”

“Buffalo wins and Utah Wins. KRinger is a SOB, Doans kid is a Mean SOB KA buying young PnV- JJ overrated by a few teams… that contract will be someone’s job IMO”
Incredible updates! Thanks so much Sec, you and others with connections like Royal and Diss add so much value to this board.

Could you clarify what AOTC means with regards to flames analytics and projections?
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I would love it 8f they traded Kadri, Coleman, and/or Backlund.

Turn the page, start over.
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Incredible updates! Thanks so much Sec, you and others with connections like Royal and Diss add so much value to this board.

Could you clarify what AOTC means with regards to flames analytics and projections?
Ahead of the curve.
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