I could see Boston being interested in Lindy. They may want to go for it again, but they have some UFAs going out, and it looks like Bergeron is retiring. Lindholm would be a nice replacement.
they have nothing to offer. No 1st or 2nd in 23 or 24 ... guys like Lysell and Poitras are solid prospects, but without any high picks, I don't see how they could possibly put together a strong enough offer.
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I could see Boston being interested in Lindy. They may want to go for it again, but they have some UFAs going out, and it looks like Bergeron is retiring. Lindholm would be a nice replacement.
Boston would likely be interested for those reasons.
I could see Columbus being interested as well, due to the Gaudreau connection. who knows, maybe they would even overpay to try and rekindle that.
Colorado now, with Landeskog out for another season might want to add an impact forward
Carolina apparently made an offer at the trade deadline, so they are likely interested still.
I think there would be a lot of interest and the Flames could probably get a bidding war going. The UFA class isn't that deep and Lindholm is a bargain for one more year still.
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they have nothing to offer. No 1st or 2nd in 23 or 24 ... guys like Lysell and Poitras are solid prospects, but without any high picks, I don't see how they could possibly put together a strong enough offer.
I get the vibe with Sutter gone that Backlund is far more likely to extend and be named the next captain. If that is the case I think they 100% need to trade Lindholm. I think Lindy is a guy who likely felt he left a lot of money on the table signing the 6 year deal. He fired his agent his first year in Calgary when he broke out as a top line player. He won’t be interested to give the Flames another discount and likely chases the most money and best situation.
I have mentioned this before but 5 years ago Treliving made his best move as GM and acquired Lindholm and Hanifin from Carolina. He added 2 5th overall picks from the Flames rebuild years (2013-2016) and they both really panned out once they got here. Now with 1 year left on their deals and the rest of the core who was here when we acquired them gone (outside Backlund) I think they should be used to reload the team here. Get younger, high upside pieces and send them to teams where they will get their 7-8 year extensions. With Huberdeau, Kadri, Weegar signed long term I don’t like handing out more max term deals to players whose prime is coming to a close sooner than later.
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Boston would likely be interested for those reasons.
I could see Columbus being interested as well, due to the Gaudreau connection. who knows, maybe they would even overpay to try and rekindle that.
Colorado now, with Landeskog out for another season might want to add an impact forward
Carolina apparently made an offer at the trade deadline, so they are likely interested still.
I think there would be a lot of interest and the Flames could probably get a bidding war going. The UFA class isn't that deep and Lindholm is a bargain for one more year still.
The problem is the Flames will not commit to a rebuild. But if by some miracle they did, one has to think that a 2.425 million dollar a year Lindholm (Flames eat half the salary) would have incredible value for a team trying to win the Cup. The Maple Leafs gave up a 1st rounder just to get out from under 6.25 million bucks.
In a contract year a team would likely be getting a 75-80 point Selke nominee. One has to think that is worth a future 1st, a former 1st and another prospect at a minimum. The Horvat deal would be the floor for a half priced Lindholm.
If they ate half the salary on Toffoli and Hanifin they could really jump start a rebuild over the summer.
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Lindholm is one of the best contracts in the league, makes all the sense in the world to trade him in his final year here
So I expect us to keep him next year, be a middling team come trade deadline and opt to hold on cuz maybe playoffs, then miss and he walks as a UFA without us getting anything in return
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Rebuild or not the Flames would be absolutely foolish to not trade Lindholm. The guy is leaving one way or another. I'd put Hanifin in that boat as well.
Rebuild or not the Flames would be absolutely foolish to not trade Lindholm. The guy is leaving one way or another. I'd put Hanifin in that boat as well.
Source? Do you talk to these guys that you know they are gone one way or another?
Source? Do you talk to these guys that you know they are gone one way or another?
Since we are asking for sources who is your source for him wanting to stay?
The way Lindy spoke on garbage bag day was as clear as day someone who had no intention on staying here. What is it about this team in the long term that would make him want to sign his last big contract here?
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Elias, would you consider opening contract talks about an extension here?
Lindholm (plenty of "ya knows" not included in quote):
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"Yeah we'll see what happens here...I got one more year, yeah..uh..yeah...uh...ya know...yeah I kinda look at it that way. Ya know...I uh...I got one more year, and that's all I can say"
It's hard to hear that and come away thinking "Yeah, Lindholm is totally coming back". Add to the quote above that Steinberg has been saying for months that the organization does not have strong feelings that Elias will sign a contract extension...and I think we've seen the last of Lindy as a Flame.
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When Pat and Flames Talk say "you should try to sign but if you can't move him" as the rights holder, I think you can infer which way the wind is blowing on the players perspective. And that's been constant all year. Does Sutter leaving move the needle? Probably not enough.
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When Pat and Flames Talk say "you should try to sign but if you can't move him" as the rights holder, I think you can infer which way the wind is blowing on the players perspective. And that's been constant all year. Does Sutter leaving move the needle? Probably not enough.
If you step back from the team for a moment as well...what would they be accomplishing by locking in a lot of these looming free agents?
This team has accomplished nothing with these players. Individually they can be viewed as good pieces/players, but collectively it's a bad team. There's a decent amount of speculation of issues inside the locker room and that things between players aren't great...so why should the Flames be looking to keep things together?
Build something new. Even if they don't go down my desired scorched Earth rebuild, this team has shown it's not worth maintaining - so I don't think we should be doubling and tripling down on massive contracts to players entering age ranges where things begin to get iffy.
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Lindholm (plenty of "ya knows" not included in quote):
It's hard to hear that and come away thinking "Yeah, Lindholm is totally coming back". Add to the quote above that Steinberg has been saying for months that the organization does not have strong feelings that Elias will sign a contract extension...and I think we've seen the last of Lindy as a Flame.
If you step back from the team for a moment as well...what would they be accomplishing by locking in a lot of these looming free agents?
This team has accomplished nothing with these players. Individually they can be viewed as good pieces/players, but collectively it's a bad team. There's a decent amount of speculation of issues inside the locker room and that things between players aren't great...so why should the Flames be looking to keep things together?
Build something new. Even if they don't go down my desired scorched Earth rebuild, this team has shown it's not worth maintaining - so I don't think we should be doubling and tripling down on massive contracts to players entering age ranges where things begin to get iffy.
The worst thing that can happen to the Flames isn't an Oilers cup it's a Panthers cup not only for the Bennett and Tkachuk of it all but because it will convince Murray he's right. If you're in you can win.
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I find that hard to believe when Elias is looking at an 8 year contract extension. Coaches come and go, and no way Elias is sitting there thinking "Oh I'd stay...but man, I can't do another 9 years of Darryl Sutter - so no, no thank you"?
I find it hard to believe that the Coach was such a villain that he single handedly sunk this season and sewered everything. I think the lack of winning, the geography, and the lack of a promising outlook towards future winning are probably the three biggest points of pain for this organization when it comes to signing/re-signing players without massive/insane premiums attached.
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