2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[OILFAN #81]

Sharks targets this summer:

1. Ekblad
2. Andersson
3. Offer sheet a defenseman (2 names on their list).

Really focusing on D. Vladar is still the #1 target in net. Misa is 75-25 their pick right now over Martone.

[dino7c]

Vladar is not a good #1 target to have

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

Even if it is buy low, if he plays well he will get paid and he will get paid more than he brings to the table. Pass

If he plays well and wants too much money you move him for profit

[Paulie Walnuts]

RFA players are more likely to traded than offersheeted. Especially with everyone having cap space.

Searching for 3rd liners to offer sheet is not a good idea just because you have space. This happened in the NBA and teams had to overpay bums like Timofey Mozgov to hit the cap floor.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Poe969

Remember when ROR was the type of player that teams wouldn't win with?

That criticism of O’Reilly never made sense. When people talk about players you don’t win with, they mean players who are either one-dimensional or small/soft. O’Reilly was never either of those things. He has good size, competes, and plays an excellent two-way game. What he caught flak for was being unusually honest with the media.

I do think some players are not well suited to the way the game is played in the playoffs. Either because they can’t adjust to increased speed and tighter checking, or because they can’t/won’t play at the required intensity without the puck. It really is a different game than regular-season hockey.

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by OILFAN #81

Sharks targets this summer:

1. Ekblad
2. Andersson
3. Offer sheet a defenseman (2 names on their list).

Really focusing on D. Vladar is still the #1 target in net. Misa is 75-25 their pick right now over Martone.

Guesses for Offer sheet target:
Bouchard? Maybe?
K’andre Miller

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

Guesses for Offer sheet target:
Bouchard? Maybe?
K’andre Miller

I think it would incredibly bad management if San Jose offer-sheeted anyone to the point that it would cost them their unprotected 1st round pick next year. They just finished at the bottom of the league.

To be clear… I also think it would be just as bad if Calgary offer sheeted anyone to the point of giving up their unprotected first round pick next year.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

Guesses for Offer sheet target:
Bouchard? Maybe?
K’andre Miller

Bouchard! lol no

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

The Flames have depth and if they want to make the leap to a contender, they need a real superstar or 2. They aren't getting anywhere with guys like Zegras.

If you see how things have gone here, or look at Carolina and Dallas this playoffs. The Flames need to look at both these teams and have the same approach, unless they switch to tank mode.

Carolina - loses a couple of important dmen in the off season, trades Necas to get Rantanen, fail to resign him and trades him for a young NHL forward and picks. 1 win away for the Eastern finals despite losing what seemed like 3 key players.

Dallas - drafts and develop like Carolina does. Great team but missing a superstar. Add Rantanen and they are a threat to win the cup and he is that missing superstar on forward. 2 wins away from the West Finals

Flames sell a ton of players yet are a 96 point team. Trade Hanifin and lots say how do we replace a solid player like him? Lindholm same thing, our centers will be awful without him. Zadorov, very good depth guy we need to keep him as he brings it physcially. Markstrom out, Wolf in. Toffoli out, how will be good without him?

Unless we add a superstar...pass pass pass. Conroy will draft and develop the depth.

Agreed.

IMO, the Flames are still in a window where they need to net out positive on the number of draft picks they are acquiring and using to select players, opposed to parlaying them into NHL players. Or if they are, the player should be in that mid-low 20’s range. They did thus with Frost and Farabee, which I think is a decent risk/reward strategy but I wouldn’t play that card too much. There’s a reason why the Flyers dealt those two players and there’s also a reason why the cost wasn’t prohibitive. The Flyers, in all likelihood, took the best deal they were going to get. I think this is a fine strategy but I don’t think it’s one that the Flames should return to the well on.

The Flames will need a superstar/elite level player, or two, to add if they want to compete. They need to either draft this player(s), which seems unlikely this year, or continue to stockpile depth/valuable assets so they can put the type of trade package together to acquire the next Rantinen, whoever that is going to be. Personally, I think the drafting route is easier.

I like both these players but to put themselves in position for a good shot at the top of next years draft, I think it would be wise to trade Andersson this offseason and, depending on how the season goes, consider trading Backlund to a cup contender during the season. I know this seldom happens but I do wonder if he could be a trade and resign candidate. I would look at a team like Colorado, assuming Nelson leaves. Believe the Avs previously had interest in Backlund. I would also keep the door open on Coleman. I think he could be one of those players that other teams would pay a handsome sum for.

[Svartsengi]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Vladar is not a good #1 target to have

I think the idea is to pair him with Askarov. For San Jose they would love it to work out just like it did in Calgary with Wolf and Vladar.

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Bouchard! lol no

Agreed, but just trying to guess who these 2 RFA dmen could be. I am pretty certain Miller would be one, but thats just my thoughts

Dobson - $4M
Bouchard - $3.9
Miller - $3.8
Byram - $3.85
Romanov - $2.5
Hague - $2.3
York - $1.6
Samberg - $1.4

Top Dmen and their current AAV's, not exactly sure which are offer sheet eligible though

[Andrew]

Originally Posted by OILFAN #81

Sharks targets this summer:

1. Ekblad
2. Andersson
3. Offer sheet a defenseman (2 names on their list).

Really focusing on D. Vladar is still the #1 target in net. Misa is 75-25 their pick right now over Martone.

They can have them both if i were the gm (anderson and vladar)... not a winning solution in division with mcdavid

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Svartsengi

I think the idea is to pair him with Askarov. For San Jose they would love it to work out just like it did in Calgary with Wolf and Vladar.

Askarov is also insane and Vladar is chill as ####. It would be good to bring him in.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

That criticism of O’Reilly never made sense. When people talk about players you don’t win with, they mean players who are either one-dimensional or small/soft. O’Reilly was never either of those things. He has good size, competes, and plays an excellent two-way game. What he caught flak for was being unusually honest with the media.

I do think some players are not well suited to the way the game is played in the playoffs. Either because they can’t adjust to increased speed and tighter checking, or because they can’t/won’t play at the required intensity without the puck. It really is a different game than regular-season hockey.

He just happened to play on a team that has sucked for almost its entire existence. Not his fault. Jaybo was a similar guy.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

That criticism of O’Reilly never made sense. When people talk about players you don’t win with, they mean players who are either one-dimensional or small/soft. O’Reilly was never either of those things. He has good size, competes, and plays an excellent two-way game. What he caught flak for was being unusually honest with the media.

I do think some players are not well suited to the way the game is played in the playoffs. Either because they can’t adjust to increased speed and tighter checking, or because they can’t/won’t play at the required intensity without the puck. It really is a different game than regular-season hockey.

And driving drunk into a Timmie’s… I think that was part of it.

[Monahammer]

I wonder if Rasmus and the Florida pick would be enough to sniff at Shane Wright.

- The kraken have Chandler Stephenson and Matty Beniers signed long term. Also have Berkly Catton waiting.
- There were rumors he could be available last year.
- They are fairly weak on the back end right now. Rasmus would give Adam Larsson a good pair.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I think that package gets us a sniff at Chandler Stephenson.

Catton can be moved to the wing.

[Toonage]

Larsson plays RD, same as Ras so they wouldn't play in a pair. Also the Krakken have a top pair in Dunn & Larsson so unlikely they would give up Wright for Ras who would ultimately get 2nd pair minutes. Though he'd be slotted well.

[Paulie Walnuts]

They signed Montour a right defender in the offseason as well.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

And driving drunk into a Timmie’s… I think that was part of it.

Not to defend O’Reilly on that front, but I’ve never noticed any correlation between being a responsible person off the ice and winning on it. Loads and loads of players who were numbskulls off the ice have lifted the Cup. Did anyone ever say Patrick Kane wasn’t the kind of guy you win with?

The ‘you can’t win with O’Reilly’ narrative became a thing when O’Reilly said players on ####ty teams that lose a lot have difficulty giving 100 per cent every game. Which is absolutely true, but taboo to say out loud.

Back when Al MacInnis was with the Flames, he commented in an interview that NHLers are typically only dialled in for around three-quarters of the games they play in the regular season. That candour caused a minor kerfuffle in the local media at the time. I can only imagine if he’d said that 25 years later. I guess people would be talking about MacInnis not being the kind of player you win with.