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The Cobra · 12-28-2023, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Spurs

So we are screwed with two guys putting family over hockey. Understandable (somewhat) for them but sucks for us.

No more NMC or NTCs please. Especially for UFAs that we shouldn't be signing to start with.

Then you aren’t signing any player with leverage.

The Cobra · 12-28-2023, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CSharp

I'm sure the Bruins GM would be dripping with saliva at the thoughts of having a stable center that is similar to Bergeron for another 10 years in Lindholm.

Bergeron either won or was close to winning the Selke pretty much every year of his career.

Lindholm has come close once when he finished 2nd to Bergeron.

Hackey · 12-28-2023, 06:42 PM

Lindholm is way closer to Danault than Bergeron.

Inferno · 12-28-2023, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kehatch

I just have to wonder if a guy like that stays committed if the Flames are in a rebuild.

Maybe not a rebuild, but he might be ok with a retool. Getting younger but still trying to win.

Spurs · 12-28-2023, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Cobra

Then you aren’t signing any player with leverage.

I am fine with that, especially with UFA's from outside the organization.

GioforPM · 12-28-2023, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CSharp

The Pearson Award is votings by the peers that played with and against him on the ice. That's at least fair since most knew what kind of player Iggy was on the ice. The guy can carry the team on his shoulder for so much and for so long, but making the playoffs to determine your worth is such BS. It's not like the Habs needed Theordore to make the playoffs. And you're right, it was just that little excuse to get that final vote from a French speaking Montrealer to tip that scale. We all knew he'd get robbed and that's what had happened.

Your allegation of a racial motive was made up out of whole cloth. I don’t even know if you know the reporter involved. You can’t look it up. That was before votes were made public. It’s not even known if it was a Francophone

dissentowner · 12-28-2023, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GioforPM

Your allegation of a racial motive was made up out of whole cloth. I don’t even know if you know the reporter involved. You can’t look it up. That was before votes were made public. It’s not even known if it was a Francophone

Actually we do.
https://thewincolumn.ca/2022/04/12/b...jor-nhl-award/

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However a reporter from Quebec inexplicably left Iginla completely off his five player ballot

GioforPM · 12-28-2023, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dissentowner

Actually we do.
https://thewincolumn.ca/2022/04/12/b...jor-nhl-award/

Newsflash. There are non francophone reporters in Montreal. It could easily have been Red Fisher.

dissentowner · 12-28-2023, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GioforPM

Newsflash. There are non francophone reporters in Montreal. It could easily have been Red Fisher.

Fair enough. I guess I was just assuming a reporter from Quebec would be a francophone. You could well be right though.

GioforPM · 12-28-2023, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dissentowner

Fair enough. I guess I was just assuming a reporter from Quebec would be a francophone. You could well be right though.

I know that there were several Montreal reporters that also only gave him a 5th place vote in addition to the rumoured person who left him off the ballot completely. But this was above airing their homeboy Jose got the award and not because Iggy is black.

dissentowner · 12-28-2023, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GioforPM

I know that there were several Montreal reporters that also only gave him a 5th place vote in addition to the rumoured person who left him off the ballot completely. But this was above airing their homeboy Jose got the award and not because Iggy is black.

Ok, I didn't even read where it was a race issue, I thought we were discussing about how they voted to get their goalie the award. I agree it has nothing to do with race.

DoubleK · 12-28-2023, 08:31 PM

Picking up on @topfiverecords trade summary post in one of the PGTs, I put this trade together between the Flames and the Devils.

To New Jersey:
G Jacob Markstrom (15% retained)
D Noah Hanafin

To Calgary
D Brendan Smith (cap dump)
D Seamus Casey (or Lenni Hameenaho)
2025 2nd round pick (if Calgary retains 50% on Markstrom this becomes a 2024 1st round pick)

I don't think the Devils will move Holtz or Mercer to make this trade work.

Who says no and why?

Spurs · 12-28-2023, 08:35 PM

That seems like a poor return for either guy let alone both.

Maybe if it’s a first that works for Markstrom but doesn’t interest me as a return for Hanifin.

jayswin · 12-28-2023, 08:37 PM

Yeah, I hate all the homer trade proposals on CP, but that is too far in the other direction. That's a garbage return.

dissentowner · 12-28-2023, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DoubleK

Picking up on @topfiverecords trade summary post in one of the PGTs, I put this trade together between the Flames and the Devils.

To New Jersey:
G Jacob Markstrom (15% retained)
D Noah Hanafin

To Calgary
D Brendan Smith (cap dump)
D Seamus Casey (or Lenni Hameenaho)
2025 2nd round pick (if Calgary retains 50% on Markstrom this becomes a 2024 1st round pick)

I don't think the Devils will move Holtz or Mercer to make this trade work.

Who says no and why?

The Flames do because that is fn terrible.

Flamesfan05 · 12-28-2023, 08:48 PM

Flames should be able to get than alone for Hanifin

GioforPM · 12-28-2023, 08:51 PM

Markstrom is easier to trade (and retain on) next year, when he has signing bonuses, his actual salary is way cheaper than this year. Assuming, again, he waives.

DoubleK · 12-28-2023, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jayswin

Yeah, I hate all the homer trade proposals on CP, but that is too far in the other direction. That's a garbage return.

The Devils fans are saying Casey won't be on the table for that return.

dissentowner · 12-28-2023, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DoubleK

The Devils fans are saying Casey won't be on the table for that return.

Oh, well if the Devil fans are saying that then we can totally forget it.

Aarongavey · 12-28-2023, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DoubleK

Picking up on @topfiverecords trade summary post in one of the PGTs, I put this trade together between the Flames and the Devils.

To New Jersey:
G Jacob Markstrom (15% retained)
D Noah Hanafin

To Calgary
D Brendan Smith (cap dump)
D Seamus Casey (or Lenni Hameenaho)
2025 2nd round pick (if Calgary retains 50% on Markstrom this becomes a 2024 1st round pick)

I don't think the Devils will move Holtz or Mercer to make this trade work.

Who says no and why?

So a 2nd round pick and a former 2nd round pick for a retained Markstrom and Hanifin. Why not throw in Lindholm as well if the Flames are getting that good of a return? I mean Casey is an undersized dman who does not put up lights out points, who could turn that down?