12-28-2023, 12:10 PM
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#14481
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdonkey
That's not what I heard. My Orange Julius guy seems to think he's very interested in moving.
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I am very confident on my intel considering it hadn't come from just one source but multiple ones. As I said before I think he would consider Toronto and that's it.
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12-28-2023, 12:13 PM
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#14482
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: still in edmonton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
I am very confident on my intel considering it hadn't come from just one source but multiple ones. As I said before I think he would consider Toronto and that's it.
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and with needing to sign Nylander I'm sure they have interest in that contract.
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12-28-2023, 12:13 PM
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#14483
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Franchise Player
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If you move Kadri I think that's more of an off-season move, not a deadline one.
In fact I think that's probably the case with most of the non UFAs. The lone exception could be Markstrom, but I think that's still unlikely to happen this season. But then again, it does seem there are many teams for whom goaltending is what they are missing.
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12-28-2023, 12:22 PM
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#14484
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache
100 greatest players of all time omits Iginla
Not the best list I’ve ever seen
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I bet you that Jose Theordore is in the NHL's top 100 because the French insists he is better than Iginla and robbed him of the Hart Trophy. Iginla is still in the top 20 goal scorer of all time, tied with Joe Sakic and up there with some of the greatest players of all time. Top 20 FFS! And he's not in the top 100?!?
The NHL is just a joke when it comes to racial equality. It's a long ways from reality.
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12-28-2023, 12:26 PM
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#14485
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Franchise Player
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If there is a taker for Kadri now, I say you move him.
It was hard not to notice Kadri in the last half of last season for all the wrong reasons. This past off-season, most of us posters looked at him as negative value contract. Was that simply silly short-sighted perception? Possibly. Possibly not. I would feel a lot better moving him out asap simply because it would appear that the Flames are not about to be competing for a cup while Kadri is still a capable centre. With nothing left to play for, will Kadri revert to 'useless Kadri' again like last season, killing any ability to move his deal in the off-season?
I doubt he gets moved until the off-season anyway (if at all), but just saying that the risk of being stuck with his deal (compounding the Huberdeau deal) is a risk that should be removed at any opportunity.
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12-28-2023, 12:32 PM
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#14486
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by combustiblefuel
His offense may have dried up but he is always making solid defensive plays.
I don't think he was ever projected to be an offensive weapon. He just got lucky and was paired with Johnny,Monny and Tkachuk. I believe his game was always to be defensively sound tho.
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Lindholm is totally underrated. I'd compare him similarly to Patrice Bergeron. Lots of little things he does on both ends of the ice - probably goes unnoticed by a lot of people. I still think it'll be a huge mistake to have him walk or traded. Of all the trades Tre made, this is probably the best one to get Lindholm.
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12-28-2023, 12:43 PM
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#14487
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
Conny will need to work a miracle, Kadri has a NMC and doesn't want to move.
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So he is fine not competing for the play-offs let alone a Cup?
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12-28-2023, 01:01 PM
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#14488
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CSharp
Lindholm is totally underrated. I'd compare him similarly to Patrice Bergeron. Lots of little things he does on both ends of the ice - probably goes unnoticed by a lot of people. I still think it'll be a huge mistake to have him walk or traded. Of all the trades Tre made, this is probably the best one to get Lindholm.
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I truly hope that rival GMs hold your viewpoint and back up the brinks truck to acquire him.
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12-28-2023, 01:06 PM
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#14489
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CSharp
Lindholm is totally underrated. I'd compare him similarly to Patrice Bergeron. Lots of little things he does on both ends of the ice - probably goes unnoticed by a lot of people. I still think it'll be a huge mistake to have him walk or traded. Of all the trades Tre made, this is probably the best one to get Lindholm.
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I think Lindholm is a very nice player, but comparing him to a future HOF player like a Bergeron is likely a deservice to Lindholm.
I don’t believe anyone else would make that comparison, especially GM’s.
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12-28-2023, 01:43 PM
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#14490
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: still in edmonton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CSharp
Lindholm is totally underrated. I'd compare him similarly to Patrice Bergeron. Lots of little things he does on both ends of the ice - probably goes unnoticed by a lot of people. I still think it'll be a huge mistake to have him walk or traded. Of all the trades Tre made, this is probably the best one to get Lindholm.
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It's easily his best trade because he got both Lindy and Hanafin.
And it makes sense to have Lindholm and Bergeron in the same conversation, with the caveat that Lindholm is a tier below Bergeron.
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12-28-2023, 01:45 PM
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#14491
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Franchise Player
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The stories of Kadri wanting out seem to trace to a neighbour. He’s an emotive guy. Maybe Kadri was having beer with a buddy or family and vented a bit last year, or this year when things were going badly for him, and said neighbour overheard it.
But Kadri has found a solid role on this team mentoring the kids. His production is great. He seems to be happy and engaged in the project. His millions go far in Calgary and he already has a Cup. Why leave? He’s here til retirement IMO.
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12-28-2023, 01:53 PM
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#14492
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurs
So he is fine not competing for the play-offs let alone a Cup?
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He believes the team can compete for a playoff spot still. He likes the group, he likes the city, and he loves playing in Canada. He also has a large amount of family living in Calgary now that were living in the London area. Family is a big thing for Kadri and he already has a Stanley Cup. I think trying to win a Stanley Cup in Canada is the goal for him now but the bottom line for him is family and playing in Canada. So no, I don't think Kadri has any interest in Cup chasing again over where he is now.
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12-28-2023, 02:23 PM
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#14493
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CSharp
I bet you that Jose Theordore is in the NHL's top 100 because the French insists he is better than Iginla and robbed him of the Hart Trophy. Iginla is still in the top 20 goal scorer of all time, tied with Joe Sakic and up there with some of the greatest players of all time. Top 20 FFS! And he's not in the top 100?!?
The NHL is just a joke when it comes to racial equality. It's a long ways from reality.
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Theodore isn't on the list. And Iggy wasn't robbed by "the French" for the Hart. He was robbed by one Montreal writer making a home-town biased vote and leaving Iggy off of all top 5 positions in the voting. A lot of voters that year didn't like that the Flames didn't make the POs and excused themselves by saying "how can he be MVP if he can't get is team into the POs". Race had nothing to do with it IMO - as shown by the Pearson.
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12-28-2023, 03:38 PM
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#14494
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CSharp
I bet you that Jose Theordore is in the NHL's top 100 because the French insists he is better than Iginla and robbed him of the Hart Trophy. Iginla is still in the top 20 goal scorer of all time, tied with Joe Sakic and up there with some of the greatest players of all time. Top 20 FFS! And he's not in the top 100?!?
The NHL is just a joke when it comes to racial equality. It's a long ways from reality.
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That’s a bit of a stretch. Do you say the same thing about the NBA?
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12-28-2023, 04:12 PM
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#14495
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
He believes the team can compete for a playoff spot still. He likes the group, he likes the city, and he loves playing in Canada. He also has a large amount of family living in Calgary now that were living in the London area. Family is a big thing for Kadri and he already has a Stanley Cup. I think trying to win a Stanley Cup in Canada is the goal for him now but the bottom line for him is family and playing in Canada. So no, I don't think Kadri has any interest in Cup chasing again over where he is now.
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So we are screwed with two guys putting family over hockey. Understandable (somewhat) for them but sucks for us.
No more NMC or NTCs please. Especially for UFAs that we shouldn't be signing to start with.
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12-28-2023, 04:48 PM
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#14496
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First Line Centre
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Things change
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12-28-2023, 05:00 PM
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#14497
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
He believes the team can compete for a playoff spot still. He likes the group, he likes the city, and he loves playing in Canada. He also has a large amount of family living in Calgary now that were living in the London area. Family is a big thing for Kadri and he already has a Stanley Cup. I think trying to win a Stanley Cup in Canada is the goal for him now but the bottom line for him is family and playing in Canada. So no, I don't think Kadri has any interest in Cup chasing again over where he is now.
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It will be interesting to see if he maintains that outlook if the Flames trade Lindholm, Tanev, Hanafin, etc and they fall out of the playoff picture. Personally I am not in any hurry to trade Kadri. He is playing well and embracing playing with the young guys. I just have to wonder if a guy like that stays committed if the Flames are in a rebuild.
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12-28-2023, 05:09 PM
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#14498
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CSharp
I bet you that Jose Theordore is in the NHL's top 100 because the French insists he is better than Iginla and robbed him of the Hart Trophy. Iginla is still in the top 20 goal scorer of all time, tied with Joe Sakic and up there with some of the greatest players of all time. Top 20 FFS! And he's not in the top 100?!?
The NHL is just a joke when it comes to racial equality. It's a long ways from reality.
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Especially when you compare for era.
The best goal scorer all time is Ovechkin. Next is Maurice Richard. Slightly behind him in third is Jarome Iginla.
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12-28-2023, 05:22 PM
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#14499
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cobra
I think Lindholm is a very nice player, but comparing him to a future HOF player like a Bergeron is likely a deservice to Lindholm.
I don’t believe anyone else would make that comparison, especially GM’s.
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I'm sure the Bruins GM would be dripping with saliva at the thoughts of having a stable center that is similar to Bergeron for another 10 years in Lindholm.
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12-28-2023, 05:31 PM
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#14500
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Theodore isn't on the list. And Iggy wasn't robbed by "the French" for the Hart. He was robbed by one Montreal writer making a home-town biased vote and leaving Iggy off of all top 5 positions in the voting. A lot of voters that year didn't like that the Flames didn't make the POs and excused themselves by saying "how can he be MVP if he can't get is team into the POs". Race had nothing to do with it IMO - as shown by the Pearson.
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The Pearson Award is votings by the peers that played with and against him on the ice. That's at least fair since most knew what kind of player Iggy was on the ice. The guy can carry the team on his shoulder for so much and for so long, but making the playoffs to determine your worth is such BS. It's not like the Habs needed Theordore to make the playoffs. And you're right, it was just that little excuse to get that final vote from a French speaking Montrealer to tip that scale. We all knew he'd get robbed and that's what had happened.
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