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Old 08-03-2021, 07:03 PM   #1421
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You may be pleasantly surprised in that case

Hopefully 3 of the 4 stick with the team and we get to find out!
Definitely hope so…..
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Old 08-03-2021, 07:38 PM   #1422
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Pelletier probably be a 3rd line player
Zary has potential to be a 2 center or top 6 winger
Coronato, with any luck top 6 winger

Wolf, goalies are a crap shoot. Anywhere from bust to starter, throw a dart
I'm getting a Flames players are all barely NHL level vs. Leaf AHLers would be top six in Calgary vibe, here.
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I'm getting a Flames players are all barely NHL level vs. Leaf AHLers would be top six in Calgary vibe, here.
That was their projection prior to the hype. I think those are still accurate assessments based on skills, size, and potential.
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Old 08-03-2021, 07:56 PM   #1424
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Max Domi on the block… as pre Friedman
Are we interested ? ( if salary retained )
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Old 08-03-2021, 07:56 PM   #1425
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Max Domi on the block… as pre Friedman
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Not when he’s injured for half the year.
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Old 08-03-2021, 08:05 PM   #1427
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Imagine hoping all summer that you'll land Eichel and then getting Domi instead lol

What a let down that would be
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Old 08-03-2021, 08:06 PM   #1428
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I hope not. Injuries included, this team already has the small skilled guys. With his salary you can't play him on the 3rd line. Realistically he's not going to work here. Crazy how much his stock has dropped in a year. Last year some were questioning if Montreal lost in the Josh Anderson deal.
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Old 08-03-2021, 08:08 PM   #1429
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I hope not. Injuries included, this team already has the small skilled guys. With his salary you can't play him on the 3rd line. Realistically he's not going to work here. Crazy how much his stock has dropped in a year. Last year some were questioning if Montreal lost in the Josh Anderson deal.
Is Domi a worse version of Monahan? Potential swap there maybe.
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Old 08-03-2021, 08:16 PM   #1430
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Is Domi a worse version of Monahan? Potential swap there maybe.

I personally don't think they're in the same ballpark. Monahan really is a boring dude, but he's put up really good numbers. As much as I want to deal him for high picks/prospects, the guy has put up really good numbers over the years. Both players are who they are at this point but I guarantee every GM would take Monahan hands down. A bonafide 2nd liner (some would argue first based on his numbers, not necessarily his skill), vs. a 3rd liner. Even if CBJ gave a 1st I wouldn't do a swap (because that pick would likely come around 7th overall). Meh.
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Old 08-03-2021, 08:26 PM   #1431
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IMO Domi value will be similar (or should be) to Bennett. Only difference is he had early success but has gotten extremely worse year after year.

I'd be willing to do a 2nd plus an okay B level prospect.
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Is Domi a worse version of Monahan? Potential swap there maybe.
Domi will never and should never be in the same discussion as Monahan.

Monahan’s offensive credentials and stats have crushed Domi, over their careers.
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Gut feeling is that Domi is a locker room cancer, so no thanks at any price.
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Old 08-03-2021, 08:36 PM   #1434
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You can argue where they rank to some degree, but Calgary is certainly not top 5.


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Talking specifically the number of picks.
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Although not technically a pick, Emil Hieneman, is about as close to an additional pick as you can have as well.

effectively the 2020 draft was one 1st, two 2nds, two 3rds, one 4th, one 5th, one 6th, one 7th.

17 picks (or 16 + 1 prospect if you like) in two draft.
Exactly. BT has not done a bad job in acquiring picks in recent years but he has struggled to add the big fish to this roster, this is the year to do that.

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Old 08-03-2021, 09:32 PM   #1436
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Is Domi a worse version of Monahan? Potential swap there maybe.

Only makes sense from Calgary’s perspective if Monny is truly broken.

At their best, Monny is better.


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...acquiring pricks in recent years ...
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Geez the rest of the leagues prospects must be awful because our prospects are not great…..wow
I think it might also reflect a change in the way high-end prospects are handled now. When you draft a good player, they tend to get into the NHL at a younger age, so teams with a lot of great young players (who may still be young enough that they could be considered a prospect) have "poor" prospect bases.
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Domi will never and should never be in the same discussion as Monahan.

Monahan’s offensive credentials and stats have crushed Domi, over their careers.
Domi was free for the taking and Seattle passed. That tells you what you want to know about his value.
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Yes, the Flames haven't had many picks, but based on the picks they have had, most draft models absolutely love their prospect pool, including Byron Bader, who has the Flames ranked as having the 6th strongest prospect pool in the NHL (8th in players, 11th in goalies):

https://twitter.com/user/status/1421117051733610496

Would be interesting to see how deep the Flames' prospect pool would be if they had more picks, but at the same time, in a situation like with Eichel, when you have a strong prospect pool and are looking to contend now, it's a no-brainer.
My experience as a Flames fan has taught me that it doesn’t really matter how good the prospects are because Calgary will traditionally go sign 3 or so plug older grinder guys and fill the bottom of the roster. The maneuver is easy to justify because “young guys should have to push them out” but what happens in practice is that kids coming into a training camp lack the maturity and experience that the plug guys have and then get sent down. The end result is less to no chance to build confidence or adjust to NHL speed.

I expect more of the same with Darryl Sutter who focuses harshly on mistakes and doesn’t let his rookies / kids make them. I look at already the dubious handling of Kylington or even Valimaki and instead promotion of a guy like Stone. Call me crazy but I predict that when Kylington rolls along to another team he may just “all of a sudden get it” (how often does this happen to the Flames lol) and be amazing.

Calgary can draft A+ers all day long but they can’t develop worth ####. There’s gotta be a middle ground between Edmonton’s just throw them in the NHL day 1 and Calgary’s “let’s wait until they’re 25” mentalities.

In sum. Stop signing plugs in the off-season and play at least a rookie or two and let them develop in the NHL or rotate in/out multiple rookies / young players. Stop depending on the AHL to exclusively develop.

Yes there are lots of generalizations in this post but this should ring familiar to fans who have followed this train wreck organization for the last 30 years. Yes I’m a Flames fan stop crying in advance and no I’m not cheering for someone else deal with it.

I predict many people who only think in black / white will not understand this post or what I am referring to when I saw loosen the reigns just not all the way and balance younger player time. Stop making it almost impossible to crack the G D team because you’ve signed a $4MM 4th liner.

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