2016/2017 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[MarkGio]

So the Flames posted an interview with Treliving about the trade deadline:
https://www.nhl.com/flames/news/trel...ne/c-286627430

Reading between the lines it doesn't look like the Flames are going to add a long-term defenseman. Makes sense. It also makes me wonder if the Flames have been unsure if they're sellers or buyers.

[N-E-B]

I think this is a year where they don't have to be a buyer or a seller. I'm sure they'd love to move Wideman if they could but I don't know how realistic that is. I'd be fine with a quiet deadline. If they add a RW then fine but if not no big deal.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by MarkGio

So the Flames posted an interview with Treliving about the trade deadline:
https://www.nhl.com/flames/news/trel...ne/c-286627430

Reading between the lines it doesn't look like the Flames are going to add a long-term defenseman. Makes sense. It also makes me wonder if the Flames have been unsure if they're sellers or buyers.

They're right to be unsure. The next 6 or 7 games will tell them if they are going to sell or not. Right now is a tipping point in the season, if they come back from the break strong then selling would be a bad idea. If they come back and struggle the Flames might as well get all the value they can from their UFAs. As for buying, I doubt the Flames will do any no matter what, the price is always to high and not much could make the Flames serious cup contenders this year.

[Yrebmi]

edit - NM

[TheIronMaiden]

nm

[MarkGio]

I really hope they're not standing still. The current season is unique and I hope the Flames take advantage of it rather than sit back and watch other teams improve. Here's how it is unique:

1) With the expansion draft, no teams are willing to take on contracts needing protection
2) Right now 27 teams are projected to have a cap hit within 5 million of the ceiling (ie, almost all teams are spending close to the cap)
3) Only 3 teams have essentially zero cap space this deadline
4) As of right now, all but four teams are within 6pts of a WC spot in their respective conference
5) The 2017 entry draft is weak, and the odds of receiving a good pick is not good (ie, most teams will part with picks)
5) Not many teams are shedding more than 13 million in UFA salary, the most being Arizona, Dallas, Calgary, San Jose, Toronto and Philly.

Due to the expansion draft, many teams are positioned to lose talent, creating more parity than ever next season. A lot of teams will not have cap flexibility next season, and not many teams will look to the draft to improve their club.

IMO, the Flames are in a good position. They could sell their UFAs with so few sellers to get picks that teams do not care about. They also have the flexibility to buy without having cap issues and protection issues.

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I don't have any reason to believe that a defenseman will magically be better just because they are playing for the Flames. He's playing for Dave Tippett not Dallas Eakins. Chances are he's only marginally better than he's showed in Phoenix at best and I don't think that's enough to warrant free agent money. There is the Phoenix connection for Treliving so I don't think you can rule it out but I wouldn't overpay for this guy and that's what free agency is all about see Troy Brouwer.

Ask Phoenix fans that follow that team closely and they have quite a different take on the quality of coach Tippett is.

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by Wolfman

Bobby Ryan with Brian Burke connection?

The connection there would be Burke's most recent comments of Ryan which were not the kinds of things you'd say about a player you feel highly of, so if he does end up a Flame, it's not because of Burke.

[Incogneto]

Originally Posted by MarkGio

I can't believe the NHL deadline is only 17 days away and the following trades have taken place since the season started:

• OCTOBER 7: Edmonton Oilers trade F Nail Yakupov to St. Louis Blues for F Zach Pochiro and a conditional draft pick.
• OCTOBER 8: Montreal Canadiens trade F Tim Bozon to Florida Panthers for D Jonathan Racine
• NOVEMBER 2: Pittsburgh Penguins trade G Mike Condon to Ottawa Senators for 2017 5th-round pick
• NOVEMBER 8: New York Rangers trade D Dylan McIlrath to Florida Panthers for D Steven Kampfer and a conditional 2018 7th-round pick
• NOVEMBER 16: Florida Panthers trade F Logan Shaw to Anaheim Ducks for F Michael Sgarbossa
• DECEMBER 9: Toronto Maple Leafs trade F Peter Holland to Arizona Coyotes for 2018 conditional draft pick
• JANUARY 11: Toronto Maple Leafs trade G Jhonas Enroth to Anaheim Ducks for 2018 7th-round pick
• JANUARY 13: Colorado Avalanche trade F Cody McLeod to Nashville Predators for F Felix Girard
• JANUARY 21: Los Angeles Kings trade F Michael Latta to Chicago Blackhawks for D Cameron Schilling
• JANUARY 24: San Jose Sharks trade F Tommy Wingels to Ottawa Senators for F Buddy Robinson, F Zach Stortini and 2017 7th-round pick
• JANUARY 26: Tampa Bay Lightning trade D Nikita Nesterov to Montreal Canadiens for D Jonathan Racine and 2017 6th-round pic
• FEBRUARY 4: New Jersey Devils trade F Vernon Fiddler to Nashville Predators for 2017 4th-round pick

This has to be the slowest year for trades for as long as I can remember. None of the players listed have any sort of top end talent.

This is mainly due to the flat cap. Teams are unwilling to cripple their future financials anymore knowing there is no relief coming July 1st.

[David Struch]

Flames could also take on extra players in deals as they are currently using only forty-five of their fifty contract limit.

[dammage79]

Expansion puts a new wrench into deadline stuff as well.
Personally, I'd like Treliving to make some room for players from the farm. Playoffs or no. Boumas expendable I think. Widemans done.

I know lots of folk love Ferland but I'd like him to be moved as well. I feel we have better in Hathaway.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Expansion puts a new wrench into deadline stuff as well.
Personally, I'd like Treliving to make some room for players from the farm. Playoffs or no. Boumas expendable I think. Widemans done.

I know lots of folk love Ferland but I'd like him to be moved as well. I feel we have better in Hathaway.

I'm not a huge Ferland fan and I love Hathaway, but in no universe is Hathaway better than Ferland.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

I'm not a huge Ferland fan and I love Hathaway, but in no universe is Hathaway better than Ferland.

Hmm, perhaps some different verbiage would clarify things. Hathaway is a better fit. Obviously Ferland has more scoring prowess. But in terms of consistent energy output. I favor Hathaway.

[Vulcan]

Ferland, Hathaway and Bouma play a physical game which also leads to injuries. Having two of them healthy at one time is all that can be expected.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Hmm, perhaps some different verbiage would clarify things. Hathaway is a better fit. Obviously Ferland has more scoring prowess. But in terms of consistent energy output. I favor Hathaway.

But it's not usually a matter of either or, we're better served having both. Ferland can move up to the top 9 when needed, Hathaway cannot; which is much more valuable to the team.

[The Original FFIV]

Jordan Subban scratched today despite being One of uticas best dmen

Ben Birnell‏ @OD_Birnell

Hearing Jordan Subban is a healthy scratch for the Comets on Sunday.
He's not out for warmups vs. Crunch

And three Mtl scouts at Van game. Have had interest in Burrows.

Jeff Paterson‏ @patersonjeff
3 Habs scouts in Buffalo tonight including Eric Crawford, former #Canucks scout now MTL director of pro scouting

[Alberta_Beef]

Players are healthy scratches in the AHL for various reasons all the time. This likely means absolutely nothing.

[sureLoss]

Sakic and Sweeney caught on camera in deep discussions for most of the 2nd intermission in Boston.



Luc Gelinas ‏@LucGelinasRDS
S'ils voulaient jaser business, ils seraient plus discrets mais Don Sweeney et Joe Sakic jasent ensemble depuis le début de l'entracte. #RDS

[Machiavelli]

Creepy angle

[The Original FFIV]

Looks like Sweeney and Sakic made some progress


Dominic Tiano‏ @dominictiano
Former NHL coach says #Bruins and #Avs are close to a deal.