Hmm, why is that any of your business lol. Quite the arrogant one to think anyone should answer that.
How many affairs did you have this year with conservatives vs liberal? Again it's not my place to ask.
The whole thread is a discussion of who you should vote for. If you are a person saying that the conservatives suck it can’t be done in the absence of which alternative is better.
Most people here agree that the conservatives, liberals and NDP will not form effective governments. Yet we have to choose one. So if you make a strong claim against one it’s reasonable to understand who they believe the better alternative is.
I’m happy our votes in Alberta don’t count for federal elections so I will be voting for Larry Heather if he is on the ballot.
Remember when idiots voted for Kenney because of Rachel? this is part 2.
Notley was actually a pretty good premier, and the UCP is the worst government Canada has ever seen. One of the most egregious voting mistakes ever, except it was then topped by voting in Smith.
Don't downplay the ####storm of alberta.
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Notley was actually a pretty good premier, and the UCP is the worst government Canada has ever seen. One of the most egregious voting mistakes ever, except it was then topped by voting in Smith.
Don't downplay the ####storm of alberta.
She was ok.. didn't change the name of her crappy party and lost to the 2 worst politicians in Canadian history! lol
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Disruption to incumbent is a necessity in my eyes. It’s time for the Conservatives to come in - and I truly hope it marks a notable change for the positive, because what we’ve had to deal with throughout this government’s time has been atrocious. If the Conservatives can come in and drive some positive change, it will then just force the Liberal party to come back to the table as a competent party, which is something they are not at this time.
But a Conservative victory would also positively reinforce the degradation of the Conservative party, so if you want competent parties it's not really something to hope for. The Conservatives winning under Poillievre but not O'Toole sends them an awful message. If you care about renewal you can't really support the Cons because the Cons are in great need of it.
We don't know who the Liberal leader in the next election will be, but I'd guess it won't be Trudeau. I think that person might be the least dunderhead option when the election comes around. That's really the only hope to avoid electing a dunderhead. Is the incumbent who needs disrupting the whole Liberal party, or just the Trudeauite leadership group? Because the leadership group has already been disrupted by their terrible polling.
We need a new centrist party that doesn't come with the millions of skeletons tripping over themselves to exit the closet that both major parties currently have.
The best thing that would come out of a CPC win federally is it would take the wind out of the sails of the UCP provincially. Alberta’s conservatives always campaign on standing up for Albertans against the evil federal government. That will be a lot harder to do with Poillievre as PM.
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If this day gets you riled up, you obviously aren't numb to the disappointment yet to be a real fan.
The best thing that would come out of a CPC win federally is it would take the wind out of the sails of the UCP provincially. Alberta’s conservatives always campaign on standing up for Albertans against the evil federal government. That will be a lot harder to do with Poillievre as PM.
Yes, that'd be good for the press release department, but Poillievre will help Smith dismantle public services in Alberta, and any other province that's dumb enough to follow the Preston manning School of FYGMGM.
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But a Conservative victory would also positively reinforce the degradation of the Conservative party, so if you want competent parties it's not really something to hope for. The Conservatives winning under Poillievre but not O'Toole sends them an awful message. If you care about renewal you can't really support the Cons because the Cons are in great need of it.
We don't know who the Liberal leader in the next election will be, but I'd guess it won't be Trudeau. I think that person might be the least dunderhead option when the election comes around. That's really the only hope to avoid electing a dunderhead. Is the incumbent who needs disrupting the whole Liberal party, or just the Trudeauite leadership group? Because the leadership group has already been disrupted by their terrible polling.
Why do you believe that if Trudeau delivered another minority liberal government he would resign before the next election? Doesn’t the same logic that suggests he will resign lead to him having already resigned before this election?
Why do you believe that if Trudeau delivered another minority liberal government he would resign before the next election? Doesn’t the same logic that suggests he will resign lead to him having already resigned before this election?
Those aren't the assumptions I'm making. We are in Con majority territory. If it stays that way I think Trudeau will quit before he loses or the party fires him.
Yes, that'd be good for the press release department, but Poillievre will help Smith dismantle public services in Alberta, and any other province that's dumb enough to follow the Preston manning School of FYGMGM.
Those aren't the assumptions I'm making. We are in Con majority territory. If it stays that way I think Trudeau will quit before he loses or the party fires him.
I misread your post,
I’ve given up hope that Trudeau resigns. I think that the people who want to displace Trudeau and be the next leader don’t want to touch this election. So I suspect he is safe and we only get the choices we currently have. I hope to be wrong.
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I’ve given up hope that Trudeau resigns. I think that the people who want to displace Trudeau and be the next leader don’t want to touch this election. So I suspect he is safe and we only get the choices we currently have. I hope to be wrong.
I'm disappointed that Carney didn't just sit back until this election was over instead of getting the Trudeau stank all over himself now. He's no accountant, but I'll take a banker in charge right now.
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I'm disappointed that Carney didn't just sit back until this election was over instead of getting the Trudeau stank all over himself now. He's no accountant, but I'll take a banker in charge right now.
I think his task force can come out with actionable items that can be done as a platform to launch his leadership. Provided his task force recommendations isn’t the current status quo it’s
I think his task force can come out with actionable items that can be done as a platform to launch his leadership. Provided his task force recommendations isn’t the current status quo it’s
I think he definitely should have sat on the sideline and stayed away from Trudeau. Things aren't off to a good start considering his task force apparently is only him so far, has no real direction or deadline and his company is also soliciting the government for $10B. But that $10B thing apparently isn't a conflict of interest because they found some special hiring arrangement which makes everything kosher.
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Interesting piece from Mulcair on why PP is attacking Joly and Carney, and why it may not work. Also illustrates why Joly may not have wanted to condemn genocidal chants like “‘from Palestine to Lebanon, Israel will soon be gone’ and ‘there is only one solution: intifada, revolution,’”
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Commemorating the horrific terrorist attacks by Hamas on October 7th should have been an emotional moment for agreement on all sides in the House of Commons. Instead, Canadians got a front-row seat to the fear now raging in Conservative ranks as they face the possibility that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau will be replaced prior to the next election.
Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre’s blistering personal attack against Foreign Affairs Minister Mélanie Joly(opens in a new tab) will continue to play out in the House even though Speaker Greg Fergus has now asked him to apologize.
The real political fallout will be outside the House as the Liberals begin to jostle to replace Trudeau. On that front, as fierce, personal and unparliamentary as Poilievre’s attack on Joly has been, he was trying to strike a chord that would resonate with voters who’ve watched the Liberals’ unguided approach to the complex issues of the Middle East.
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The Conservatives are doing preventive maintenance with their withering assaults against prospective opponents, attacks that include, of course, those on Mark Carney(opens in a new tab). He is logically seen by Liberal insiders as having the inside track to be their new leader. Poilievre, strutting his Trump side, even invented a nickname for Carney: “Carbon tax Carney”!
Conservatives have invented “conflicts of interest” and flung them at Carney, who should see those attacks as a form of acknowledgment that he’s the frontrunner in the as-yet-undeclared race to replace Trudeau.
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It’s not as if Joly‘s utterly incomprehensible positions on the Israel-Hamas conflict can’t be debated.
From early mixed messaging on a ceasefire to the indecipherable Canadian position in response to South Africa’s genocide accusations before the International Court of Justice, there’s been a lot to discuss and debate about the Liberals’ policies.
When I spoke with Joly about the Liberal reaction to the South African position she said something that floored me: “Thomas, have you seen the demographics of my riding”? I know that “all politics is local,” but I was astonished to hear such a candid admission that very local politics were playing such a role in shaping Canada’s foreign policy on this highly complex and sensitive issue.
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I know this game first hand. As Deputy House leader in the National Assembly in Quebec City and, later, as House leader and then Leader of the NDP, I understand that going after your opponents is a key part of the game. But when that game becomes pure, unhinged inside baseball, you lose voters’ interest because you’re clearly only taking care of your own interests.
The dramatic side to Poilievre, his tendency to play everything to the hilt, could well become his undoing.
