2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

I think you should be able to get more for Toffoli. We gave up more than that when we traded for him. The Lindholm trade proposal is interesting.

It’s pretty much the exact same.

1st + recent former 2nd + depth pick.

We gave up a 1st + Heineman + Pitlick + a 5th I believe

[Ashes]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Lindholm trade:

That's 9th Overall + 41st Overall + 2021 70th Overall LW right-shooting Carter Mazur. This trade makes sense for Detroit in my eyes too because they haven't been able to draft top-end centres since Larkin, but have two studs on the back-end in Seider and Edvinsson. Larkin + Lindholm, Seider + Edvinsson

I do that trade. That's a top-10 pick in this draft, and that should absolutely be the target when it comes to a Lindy trade.

Toffoli trade:

That's 30th, 31st, or 32nd Overall this year + 2024 3rd rounder + 2022 52nd overall LW right-shooting Dmitri Buchelikov

I do that trade.

Both of those Detroit proposals seem good to me.

Yeah agreed on the Lindholm front for sure, especially after those non committal comments on garbage bag day. Turning Lindholm into a top-10 pick ++ which would likely be used to draft a Center.. that's exactly the kind of deal I want this team to make and it's another reason why I hope we don't wait until the deadline next season to move our assets.

The 2023 draft is where you want to be drafting. Also it would set our rebuild/retool ahead by a year instead of waiting until 2024.

I'd be perfectly fine with the Toffoli trade as well.

[Aarongavey]

I am curious what the Rags do if they don’t go deep. They are built to win now. I wonder what they would think of the following package

Lindholm at 50% - 2.425

For

Kakko

Money is basically a wash (Rags take on 325K). They get the much better player for one year though and the Flames get a potential very good young forward for awhile.

[Jiri Hrdina]

I don't think you get a top 10 pick for a pending UFA.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I don't think you get a top 10 pick for a pending UFA.

Yeah, we went through this last TDL. The teams that want a guy like that are contenders. Hence, not top 10 picks. I suppose Hanifin might be the exception.

[Ashes]

True, but if a team (like Detroit) wanted Lindholm badly enough, and they don't want to bid against virtually every other team in the league at the deadline, and they get the impression that re-signing him isn't a big hurdle then a trade isn't out of the question involving a 1st rounder IMO.

I think that adding Lindholm for at least one season + re-signing him for the long-term could be looked at as worthy of a 1st round pick. It'd be a pretty ballsy move obviously, so probably more likely to happen for one of their lower 1st's.

At the end of the day it's only a speculation trade, but it's pretty exciting to think of what that return could look like for Lindholm and other upcoming UFA's.

Detroit having 3 first round picks does make me think that they are a good trading partner for us this summer though, if we start moving assets out.

[Jiggy_12]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I don't think you get a top 10 pick for a pending UFA.

Maybe we do a sign and trade like with Tkachuk

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Ashes

True, but if a team (like Detroit) wanted Lindholm badly enough, and they don't want to bid against virtually every other team in the league at the deadline, and they get the impression that re-signing him isn't a big hurdle then a trade isn't out of the question involving a 1st rounder IMO.

I think that adding Lindholm for at least one season + re-signing him for the long-term could be looked at as worthy of a 1st round pick. It'd be a pretty ballsy move obviously, so probably more likely to happen for one of their lower 1st's.

At the end of the day it's only a speculation trade, but it's pretty exciting to think of what that return could look like for Lindholm and other upcoming UFA's.

Detroit having 3 first round picks does make me think that they are a good trading partner for us this summer though, if we start moving assets out.

1st round yes. top 10 no.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

I am curious what the Rags do if they don’t go deep. They are built to win now. I wonder what they would think of the following package

Lindholm at 50% - 2.425

For

Kakko

Money is basically a wash (Rags take on 325K). They get the much better player for one year though and the Flames get a potential very good young forward for awhile.

Lindholm at 50% retained better get a lot more than Kakko straight up. Better also include Brennan Ohtmann and a pick.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

Lindholm at 50% retained better get a lot more than Kakko straight up. Better also include Brennan Ohtmann and a pick.

You're getting roughly what the Canucks got for Horvat, so you're not even getting Kakko.

[Strange Brew]

A top 10 pick is a dream IMO. Try to add a future first rounder to a mid first round pick this year. That would be nice.

[PepsiFree]

If you trade Lindholm, you’re doing it with a team that’s a contender looking for a rental and you’re retaining salary, or a bubble team looking for a long term solution that puts them over.

In either case, you’re not getting a current (or probably even former) top 10 pick.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

You're getting roughly what the Canucks got for Horvat, so you're not even getting Kakko.

Correct. Young kids on cheap contracts cost controlled rfas are worth much more than older players heading to UFA

[dammage79]

I'm supremely bummed about Lindholm wanting out.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

You're getting roughly what the Canucks got for Horvat, so you're not even getting Kakko.

I'd take a Raty type prospect ant time.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Coronato was played at center this year.

Will be in need of at least one skilled center when next offseason rolls around.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I'd take a Raty type prospect ant time.

Originally Posted by dammage79

I'm supremely bummed about Lindholm wanting out.

Agreed on both counts.

[traptor]

I'd be looking at the like the avs Newhook + 1st

Or bruins for lysell+1st+ frederick

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by traptor

I'd be looking at the like the avs Newhook + 1st

Or bruins for lysell+1st+ frederick

Lindholm would be a smart pick up for Boston to continue their window

[Flames1217]

Originally Posted by MrMike

Lindholm would be a smart pick up for Boston to continue their window

Especially if you allow them to negotiate with him (likely not happening).

I would push for Zacha plus Lysell myself. Zacha had a great year and is a versatile LW/Center. He is big and adds speed which we do lack within the line up.

Boston doesn't have a first until 2025 so even then I don't know what else I would want from them that makes sense for both parties.