2010 NCAA football thread....

[octothorp]

Glad the ducks came back and made a bit of drama out of it, but the better team won. Fairley was the player of the game in my opinion. Another huge factor was Oregon's inability to get anything on kickoff and punt returns.

[moon]

Do they wait to hand Newton the BCS trophy before taking away the NC or are they going to go through another BS investigation and take the NC away a few years from now?

[PIMking]

I couldn't care who won, but I wanted a good game and found my self cheering for the ducks.

I guess 180k is pretty cheap for a championship.

[wpgflamesfan]

Originally Posted by moon

Do they wait to hand Newton the BCS trophy before taking away the NC or are they going to go through another BS investigation and take the NC away a few years from now?

That's gonna be the part that stings the most for me a few years down the road.

[moon]

Originally Posted by PIMking

I couldn't care who won, but I wanted a good game and found my self cheering for the ducks.

I guess 180k is pretty cheap for a championship.

I am sure his contract has a clause that includes a championship bonus.

Plus think about the money he gets to come back to Auburn next year.

Surely will be a lot more than he will make in the NFL as a TE.

[PIMking]

This win will make the SEC look worse.

[transplant99]

Great ending to a bad football game. I feel bad for Oregon getting so close to something the school has never had before, but they got beat by a clearly better football team.

As has been touched on already though....this will be vacated in a couple years in all liklihood.

Oh a PIM I meant to ask...how much snow did you guys end up getting?

[JayP]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Yup, as of right now TCU has a huge argument to hold at least a share of the National Championship.

To me this once again shows that the system is a little broken, there should be no questions at the end of the season to who the champion is.

And you could easily say the NFL playoff system is broken considering there's a 7 win team still playing. Playoffs aren't perfect at determining the best team either, contrary to popular belief.

But I do agree that the long layoff does need to be looked at. I don't think the layoff affected the sharpness, but it really gives the coaches a ridiculous amount of time to scheme and completely changes the way this game would look at the start of December.

I really didn't think the teams looked that rusty. I think the defensive schemes were just allowed to catch up to the unique offenses both teams run. Both QBs weren't perfect, but still completed a high percentage of their passes.

This game was really lost when Oregon's offensive schemes gambled that they could zone-read on Fairley instead of the usual DE (although reading on a DT isn't anything ground-breaking). I was pretty sure they'd do this, but thought it'd take Fairley out of the game. Instead his quickness and acceleration completely broke things up forcing Thomas into a bunch of bad reads and big losses. After the first half Oregon had to completely abandon their zone read game plans because of this (it's not as easy as just switching over to reading the DE every play at halftime) and were never in a comfort zone that allowed them to speed up the pace.

One bit of controversy on that last replay - Dyer's wrist appeared to be down and I've seen that called several times this year (as recent as last week...although that may have been in an NFL game). Either way, it's a bit of an anti-climatic end to what was looking to be an exciting finish.

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by JayP

And you could easily say the NFL playoff system is broken considering there's a 7 win team still playing. Playoffs aren't perfect at determining the best team either, contrary to popular belief.

But I do agree that the long layoff does need to be looked at. I don't think the layoff affected the sharpness, but it really gives the coaches a ridiculous amount of time to scheme and completely changes the way this game would look at the start of December.

I really didn't think the teams looked that rusty. I think the defensive schemes were just allowed to catch up to the unique offenses both teams run. Both QBs weren't perfect, but still completed a high percentage of their passes.

This game was really lost when Oregon's offensive schemes gambled that they could zone-read on Fairley instead of the usual DE (although reading on a DT isn't anything ground-breaking). I was pretty sure they'd do this, but thought it'd take Fairley out of the game. Instead his quickness and acceleration completely broke things up forcing Thomas into a bunch of bad reads and big losses. After the first half Oregon had to completely abandon their zone read game plans because of this (it's not as easy as just switching over to reading the DE every play at halftime) and were never in a comfort zone that allowed them to speed up the pace.

One bit of controversy on that last replay - Dyer's wrist appeared to be down and I've seen that called several times this year (as recent as last week...although that may have been in an NFL game). Either way, it's a bit of an anti-climatic end to what was looking to be an exciting finish.

Maybe the playoff system isn't perfect, but at least New Orleans had a shot and they blew it. TCU never got one. All they did was win.

[transplant99]

And you could easily say the NFL playoff system is broken considering there's a 7 win team still playing. Playoffs aren't perfect at determining the best team either, contrary to popular belief.

I choose to look at it this way, and you may disagree, but if that team isnt deserving of being there they will get beat at some point....and that is the huge advantage any playoff system has.

I really didn't think the teams looked that rusty.

really? I thought they both looked like they hadn't seen a football field for a year for the first 2 1/2 quarters. It's too bad really as this game had all the makings of a classic going in.

[ResAlien]

Tonight was a prime example of what's wrong with the BCS championship game. Almost 40 days off between your final game and the championship? The play on the field reflected this quite well. Ridiculous. Entertaining game though, I'm bummed to see Oregon lose.

[JayP]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

Maybe the playoff system isn't perfect, but at least New Orleans had a shot and they blew it. TCU never got one. All they did was win.

...against the 80 best schedule in the country.

Either way, it's not about the Saints blowing their shot - it's about devaluing the regular season by letting in teams like the Seahawks who don't deserve a chance at the championship.

A plus-one or 4-team playoff would likely work fine in NCAA football, but the big issue is it snowballing into something bigger. A 4-team playoff would've left out Wisconsin or Stanford which would've been a big issue, but an 8-team playoff would've let in teams like Arkansas and Oklahoma who didn't do anything to deserve a shot at the title.

[PIMking]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Great ending to a bad football game. I feel bad for Oregon getting so close to something the school has never had before, but they got beat by a clearly better football team.

As has been touched on already though....this will be vacated in a couple years in all liklihood.

Oh a PIM I meant to ask...how much snow did you guys end up getting?

We got nothing! more sleet and freezing rain here in Tuscaloosa. Just north by 30 miles or so they received 4".

I didn't have school the last two days because they shut down town. I tried telling them that up north in Iowa and Minn. they wouldn't have plows out in time and we would drive in 8" of snow.

Good season of CFB. I just have a feeling this will be the second title that Auburn vacates.

[JayP]

Originally Posted by transplant99

I choose to look at it this way, and you may disagree, but if that team isnt deserving of being there they will get beat at some point....and that is the huge advantage any playoff system has

Which is completely disagree with. Upsets happen and all a team has to do is get hot for 3 games and they're in the title game. Especially when that undeserving team gets to start with home field advantage as well.

[transplant99]

Which is completely disagree with. Upsets happen and all a team has to do is get hot for 3 games and they're in the title game.

Its not an upset any longer when a team does it 3 straight games.

Especially when that undeserving team gets to start with home field advantage as well.

Absolutely agree with you here. Seattle earned their spot in the playoffs by winning their division...the goal of every team at the start of the year. However, they did not earn homefield when the team they were playing finished 4 games better and had already beat them head to head. Thats a really bad glitch in the system. That being said its the first time its ever happened...an anomoly.

And I think the Hawks get steamrolled this weekend which should end all the uproar.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

Tonight was a prime example of what's wrong with the BCS championship game. Almost 40 days off between your final game and the championship? The play on the field reflected this quite well. Ridiculous. Entertaining game though, I'm bummed to see Oregon lose.

yeah 40 days off is ridiculous.

After the weekend, this game reminded me how much better I like the pro game.

[JayP]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Its not an upset any longer when a team does it 3 straight games.

Why though? Because the playoffs are arbitrarily that length? I don't get how you can say that the playoffs always sort themselves out when every sport has different playoff systems of varying length.

If Seattle continues on to the Super Bowl you'd actually say that they're one of the top 2 teams in the league when the first 16 games of evidence strongly showed they weren't?

[rubecube]

Can we quit with the overrated SEC crap now? The best teams in the SEC basically ran through bowl season against the best teams in other conferences, with the exception of Arkansas and Missouri. Not to mention the conference owns five straight national titles.

[transplant99]

Why though? Because the playoffs are arbitrarily that length? I don't get how you can say that the playoffs always sort themselves out when every sport has different playoff systems of varying length.

Not really. Every sport other than football has a "best of" system, which is a great way to do it. Unfortunately football cannot practically do that.

If Seattle continues on to the Super Bowl you'd actually say that they're one of the top 2 teams in the league when the first 16 games of evidence strongly showed they weren't

Yes if they are beating the same supposed teams that first 16 games strongly showed who was best.

I will agree there is no perfect system, and never will be. But no doubt about it, there are some that are better than others....and the BCS is not a good one.

[corporatejay]

I guess the best thing you can say about playoff system is an undefeated team won't "not" be the champion at the end of the season.