Ann Coulter @ the U of C - UPDATE moved to Red/White Club @ McMahon

[GreenTeaFrapp]

Originally Posted by mykalberta

I cant say I am surprised.

College students in that area of the country have a history of throwing temper tantrums when they dont get there way. If its not Ottawa/Carelton with Coulter its Concordia with Netanyahu. Its obvious that alot of children in that part of the country were not disciplined properly by their parents and as such they believe they can act like a brat and get away with it.

Some people simply dont like to hear an opinion that differs from their own and in order to make themselves feel better they throw insults and slurs. Instead of being laughed at like they would be in public (even though its unlikely they would have the guts to say what they do here in public), it is accepted as this is an internet forum. Thus is life in the new digital age.

The reason why those tantrums happen in "that area of the country" is that it's the most densely populated area of the country which allows the congregation of all the whining morally upstanding do-gooders from southern Ontario to Montreal to protest opinions they don't like.

If you had 15 million people within a 5 hour drive out west the same thing would happen there.

[Flames89]

Wow - people on here blame U of O?

They brought her in to speak, their provost warned her about hate-speech, and a crowd showed up to protest her. I am glad to hear that Canadians showed up to protest the performance of a hate-spewing, shock-jock, shrew. That is our right to assemble.

Do you guys really believe her camp that they showed up with violence on their mind? This is Ottawa, not vancouver (couldn't resist).

Now she is going to make a mockery of Canadian human rights laws.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/blogs...rticle1510468/

[gargamel]

Originally Posted by HOZ

Muslim is not a race. It is a religion. Considering the insults on this board towards Christianity there are a whole whack of racists posing as Atheists.

Freedom of speech is just that. Freedom to say what you like whether someone else likes it or not. To suppress that right and we all lose. As for her Muslim comments....definitely ignorant and mean. Not racist.

Magic carpets and camels have nothing to do with Islam. Just because she used religion as a surrogate for race doesn't mean that her comments weren't still racist.

If you say that the African Methodist Episcopals should go ride in their hoopties to KFC, is that somehow anti-religious instead of racist?

[Joborule]

All I hear is blah blah blah from her. (In regards to last post with article quote)

She should be able to speak if she wants though. But I would like to see that so she can show her self to be a moron some more.

[HOZ]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Stang

Freedom of speech ends when it incites hate. Whether that be based on religion, race, etc.

True, Islam is a religion and not a race. But it is the predominant religion of Arabs. I doubt that Coulter would care if an Arab Christian from Lebanon was denied flying - that's just collateral damage and would somehow protect America. The Middle-Eastern guy was denied boarding - phew - that was a close one.

Painting all Muslims (and therefore, most Arabs) as terrorists and promoting something outlandish like not letting any of them fly at all, is simply blatant discrimination. Deciding whether it is based on race or religion is splitting hairs - pick one.

Congratulations. You picked out the prejudice. BUT...YOU SAID RACIST not discrimination. And her exact quote is, "Not all Muslims are terrorists but ALL terrorists are Muslim." That is not racism. And please stop moving the goal posts. I perfectly understand that you feel her statement was way out of line.

[Flame Of Liberty]

Does anyone know what is the direct quote for "She later suggested Muslims denied air travel take “flying carpets” instead."?

Originally Posted by Jimmy Stang

Painting all Muslims (and therefore, most Arabs) as terrorists and promoting something outlandish like not letting any of them fly at all, is simply blatant discrimination. Deciding whether it is based on race or religion is splitting hairs - pick one.

Did she really say that? OR did she say muslims already denied air travel (by US authorities) should take flying carpets?

[bubbsy]

lol, apparently it's not just angry u of o students...

Check out this video of 2 guys pie'ing her:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv9xa...eature=related

[Cowperson]

Originally Posted by Flames89

Wow - people on here blame U of O?

They brought her in to speak, their provost warned her about hate-speech, and a crowd showed up to protest her. I am glad to hear that Canadians showed up to protest the performance of a hate-spewing, shock-jock, shrew. That is our right to assemble.

Do you guys really believe her camp that they showed up with violence on their mind? This is Ottawa, not vancouver (couldn't resist).

Now she is going to make a mockery of Canadian human rights laws.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/blogs...rticle1510468/

Here's the follow-up on the last time someone cancelled an appearance on her if you want to see what's in store.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/285372...-today_people/

The story of her appearance was news nowhere except Ottawa. The story of the UofO official's warning letter got some press on both sides of the border, mostly here. The story of the cancellation is everywhere in the USA media this morning.

Hilarious.

Cowperson

[HOZ]

Originally Posted by gargamel

Magic carpets and camels have nothing to do with Islam. Just because she used religion as a surrogate for race doesn't mean that her comments weren't still racist.

If you say that the African Methodist Episcopals should go ride in their hoopties to KFC, is that somehow anti-religious instead of racist?

Well when did religion take over our DNA and Genome structure?

Yes telling Tom Cruise to suck the exhaust out of an ET DC-9 is NOT racist.

[WilsonFourTwo]

Originally Posted by Flames89

Wow - people on here blame U of O?

They brought her in to speak, their provost warned her about hate-speech, and a crowd showed up to protest her. I am glad to hear that Canadians showed up to protest the performance of a hate-spewing, shock-jock, shrew. That is our right to assemble.

I actually do blame the University. Francois Houle's email smacked of censorship, playing directly into Coulter's hands. It was misguided to say the very least.

As for the protesters....congrats on banding together and making your point. Excellent usage of free speech. That said, creating an atmosphere in which the someone feels unsecure and/or unable to speak their mind.....once again, played directly into Coulter's hands. I mean seriously - her speech topic is/was free speech and the challenges it faces.

Overall, Coulter (and camp) could not have scripted a better outcome. She now has an endless supply of new rallying cries and tangible reasons to criticize Canada and the downfall of free speech. Although I don't believe for a second that she really, truly cares about this.....U of O just inadvertently made her another stack of millions and ensured she remains relevant for at least a handful of years.

[Jimmy Stang]

There's always two sides to every story. Could there have been some threats from protesters that stepped over the line? Probably. Is the Coulter side milking the publicity and making her into a free speech martyr (for lack of a better term). Of course.

I love that we have the right to protest, and I think that Coulter is trash. But I think that the best thing that everyone could have done was let her remain on the fringes of the Canadian mindset and let her preach to her choir. Most people wouldn't have batted an eyelid. If she crossed the line, file a human rights complaint. Done. It may not go anywhere, but she would remain a bit of a curious joke. Instead, she is getting way more mainstream media attention that she deserves. Attention whores love attention.

The whole warning by the U of O guy, and the subsequent media attention is playing right into her hands. If she practiced hate speech on Canadian soil, let someone file a human rights complaint about it. But denying her the right to speak by making threats - counter productive and contrary to the whole reason they are protesting in the first place.

[gargamel]

Originally Posted by HOZ

Well when did religion take over our DNA and Genome structure?

Yes telling Tom Cruise to suck the exhaust out of an ET DC-9 is NOT racist.

If a religion is primarily made up of a single race, and you pretend to attack that religion by focusing on stereotypes of the race that primarily makes up the religion (stereotypes which have nothing to do with the religion), that's just masked racism. If you tell members of a primarily black church to go eat some watermelon, that's racist; if you tell members of a primarily Arab religion to go ride a camel, that's racist.

[cyclone3483]

"Flying carpet" quote (among others) in this article. http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2003...lishing.usnews

[Flame Of Liberty]

Well this is what I found. Tell me again where she wants to ban Muslims from flying:

Sharing a table at a New York bar with Coulter, watching the heads turn, you're seized by the urge to test her. Is she for real? Is she making this stuff up, like a comedian doing a shtick? How far will she go? "What if the free market offered Muslim-free air travel?" I venture, by way of bait. Would that be a smart move? "This is my idea," she says brightly, competitive as a child. "I'm way ahead of you. I think airlines ought to start advertising: 'We have the most civil rights lawsuits brought against us by Arabs.' "

And how would Muslims travel? "They could use flying carpets," she says, a grinning picture of charm.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2003...lishing.usnews

Good ol liberals...twisting words and facts to fit their cause. They Didn't disappoint. They never do...

[Jimmy Stang]

Originally Posted by HOZ

Congratulations. You picked out the prejudice. BUT...YOU SAID RACIST not discrimination. And her exact quote is, "Not all Muslims are terrorists but ALL terrorists are Muslim." That is not racism. And please stop moving the goal posts. I perfectly understand that you feel her statement was way out of line.

Semantics. The larger issue is hiding behind freedom of speech to deliver hate. Yes - I said racist. I should have used a broader term as she seems to hate a few different groups based on race, religion, sexual orientation, nationality, and so on.

And her exact quote is also completely incorrect and discriminatory. There are all sorts of terrorism from all sorts of groups - including other religions, political groups, etc.

[photon]

So, define racism HOZ. What's the line?

[flames_1987]

For someone who has denounced our country as far back as the early 2000's and had admitted knowing nothing and not caring about our country, what else can she really say against us?

This women perpetuates hate, whether it be towards race, political ideologies, 9/11 Widows! religion, or sexuality. I hope the same thing happens to her in Calgary.

[The Goon]

I looked at Coulter's website to get a ticket, but it required an email to someone and my worry is that I would end up getting spammed by Ezra Levant's organization.

I'd like to go see her tomorrow night, but it's not worth the hassle.

[mykalberta]

Let me wikipedia that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism

Racism is the belief that race is a primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.

People like to throw out the racism card because its its an easy card to throw out there because its hard to defend and easy to attack.

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by flames_1987

For someone who has denounced our country as far back as the early 2000's and had admitted knowing nothing and not caring about our country, what else can she really say against us?

This women perpetuates hate, whether it be towards race, political ideologies, 9/11 Widows! religion, or sexuality. I hope the same thing happens to her in Calgary.

single women are also the root of all crime, and they stem from left wing attacks on the family structure

She has been known to charge 20K as a speaking charge for uni's in the states. Not sure why Canadian institutions would have any interest in bringing in someone like this, let alone pay her to speak.