Get the F*** Out of the Left Lane

[Dion]

Originally Posted by jar_e

Except were not talking about someone bumping into each other and spilling their coffee. We're talking about accidents that become dangerously compounded as the speed of travel increases. I really hope you don't learn the hardway by getting into an accident...I'd never wish that upon anyone, but when you start tailgating someone who's doing the speed limit I hope your injuries are minor when that person drives defensively and you ram into the back of them.

###. Said it better than I could have.

[Asian Lilliputian]

Originally Posted by OzSome

In the city there is no law about driving over the limit in the left lane

Wrong.

A cop on Global 7 news said there is no passing lane on Deerfoot. 100 kph limit applies to all lanes.

[MolsonInBothHands]

Something doesn't compute here...

80% of the people in this thread are against speeding, and piling on 4x4. However 80% of the people on Deerfoot are doing 110 km/h (when it isn't jammed up).

I think speeding is like masturbation.

For the record, YenMan's driving attitude is how I drive now. I used to get cranky, but after driving in Athens, Greece for a month, I will never complain again. If it's safe, and the road is open, I will go a little faster, but gone are the days of zipping and cutting through the lanes.

[REDVAN]

Originally Posted by MolsonInBothHands

Something doesn't compute here...



I think speeding is like masturbation.

No one wants to admit to doing it but they do. You can't tell me that everyone on Cp except me and 4X4 go the speed limit. I vote we all get bumper stickers to identify one-another, and then I'll see how many of you are really the slow drivers.

[corporatejay]

the illegal argument is the weakest of them all, it's the equivalent of jaywalking for pete's sake, I'm sure not everyone here goes to the corner on some 3rd off main street in Mackenzie to cross.

[4X4]

You know what else is like masturbation? Procrastination. Feels good, but in the end, you're just screwing yourself.

[FireFly]

Originally Posted by 4X4

You know what else is like masturbation? Procrastination. Feels good, but in the end, you're just screwing yourself.

And arguing on the internet...

[Jayems]

Originally Posted by Asian Lilliputian

Wrong.

A cop on Global 7 news said there is no passing lane on Deerfoot. 100 kph limit applies to all lanes.

Well, actually, its common practice to stay out of the left lane. passing in the middle and right lanes would become undertaking, which correct me if im wrong is taboo here too (it is in England, I know that much.) The left lane would be considered the passing lane, but having said that, you can't actually pass someone and speed at the same time. So its kind of redundant.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by 4X4

Don't give a fiddlerwhatever? Seriously, man. You are one of those people that arbitrarily get into the left lane because you've got 27 miles before your exit, right? Too effin lazy to watch your mirror and let the faster people through?

You do know what they say about assumptions

Try again! I'm usually in the middle or right lane.

[soulchoice]

4X4, I am on board with you on this one. Reading some of the posts on here, I feel like there are many that have never actually left the confines of a small town and driven on a freeway in their life. Whether Deerfoot is in the city or not, it has always been known as a freeway. Just like the 401 in T.O., the I5 in Seattle, a FREEWAY! Any other city, where there is an actual freeway, the common rules are usually known by all drivers. Slower traffic, no matter what the speed stays out of the left lane.

I could be going 150km/hr and if some guy in a car, minivan, suv or anything comes behind me, I will move over for him. I have no reason to try and slow them down and moving over to the middle lane is a simple procedure. If someone wants to go faster than I am, its none of my concern. My average speed on Deerfoot is betwenn 120 and 140km and I always move over when someone is behind me.

I have a sister is notorious for driving 100-110km in the left lane and says the whole stupid argument as, Im going speed limit or slightly over so I should be in the left lane. Yet on the other hand, she complains about the aholes who tailgate her. The moment I told her, well if you are going to drive like that to prove a point, then dont complain about tailgating, cause it will happen each and everytime you drive that way on a freeway. I hope it does, so you finally wise up, i tell her.

[Flames0910]

sorry to go a little off topic, but its about people going WAAAY to fast in the left lane

Rant: driving home from the mountains after a long weekend is ing ridiculous
I was driving with the flow of traffic and some ing idiot comes up and starts flashing his high beams at me from waaaay behind me so that he wouldn't have to slow down from what had to be at least 200km, so i slow down and slide in between two cars so he can cruise past me without even touching his brakes.

and don't even get me started on the guy who flicked his high beams off then left them on while passing by me because i flicked mine at him so that he knew he was blinding me

[4X4]

Originally Posted by Dion

You're fogetting the fact that those who speed don't give a fiddlers about the rest of the drivers on the road. They think they own the left lane and feel they can drive at whatever speed they want. Probably the same ones that whine and snivel about the photo radar on Deerfoot.

What was that about assumptions?

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by MolsonInBothHands

Something doesn't compute here...

80% of the people in this thread are against speeding, and piling on 4x4. However 80% of the people on Deerfoot are doing 110 km/h (when it isn't jammed up).

I think most people here have sped or do speed at sometimes. The difference is, we would admit it's not the safest thing to do and we did it anyway. Or even if we think it's safe, we don't take issue with those who don't speed.
We won't speed and think everyone who doesn't is a bad driver because they don't get out of our way.

I think the issue that most here have with Redvan and 4X4 is not so much that they speed a little, but that they have an issue with those who don't and do things like tailgate them when they're doing nothing more then obeying the law.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by 4X4

What was that about assumptions?

No assumptions. Your comments to Peter12 were enough proof for me.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

So you don't think people should break the rules a little bit to save themselves some time?

Ahahaha... you won.

[4X4]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

I think most people here have sped or do speed at sometimes. The difference is, we would admit it's not the safest thing to do and we did it anyway. Or even if we think it's safe, we don't take issue with those who don't speed.
We won't speed and think everyone who doesn't is a bad driver because they don't get out of our way.

I think the issue that most here have with Redvan and 4X4 is not so much that they speed a little, but that they have an issue with those who don't and do things like tailgate them when they're doing nothing more then obeying the law.

Wow, Windsor. You continue to amuse me. You're right up there with (deleted) for paraphrasing. You sure summed me up, buckaroo.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by 4X4

Wow, Windsor. You continue to amuse me. You're right up there with (deleted) for paraphrasing. You sure summed me up, buckaroo.

It wasn't hard, but I'm glad you're amused.

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by BlackArcher101

I have attempted to stay away from this thread, but this keeps coming up. I see a common thought here, that the speeders are saying that the people in the left lane going slow think they own the road. It boggles my mind. I don't get the people complaining about others thinking they own the road, then they go ahead and mention that cars should get out of their way like they own the left lane.....

No one owns anything or owes anything to anyone. This isn't Europe/Asia where pedestrians and vehicles are one and somehow magically juggle their way through a maze of each other. I've seen Cairo traffic and I wish it was like that here, but unfortunately it will never happen as long as we have such strict laws and the mindset/skillset of the public.

I admit, I speed on deerfoot, usually over 110km/hr. I consider myself really considerate on the road and since I worked the highways doing inspection for a while, I've learned to continuously monitor my mirrors. If I'm in the left lane, travelling at a speed that won't get me past the person on the right in a decent matter of time, I will speed up and switch lanes. I do this a lot on the QE2. However, I do have my exceptions. If the person coming up behind me has surprised me, meaning they were travelling at a really high rate of speed, I will neither hasten my pass or slow it down. You can't say I'm actually harming the safety of others moreso than speeders when doing this. Now, if that person behind me starts to blare on the horn, flash their lights, or do some extreme tailgating, then the foot comes off the gas a little. I'm not easily intimated and have a LOT of patience.
I don't do this for long though, as I have seen what these guys can do when they get a little PO'd. Specifically ramming the side of their truck against your vehicle and running you off the road, only to try to get a fist fight started.

Bottom line... be curteuous especially if the other person is as well. Telling a speeder to slow down because they are only saving 30 seconds can go both ways. Moving back to the slower lane to let others pass won't cost you 30 seconds either.

Good post black archer. I would consider myself the same kind of driver as you. I am very considerate to people who are speeding in the left lane but if someone is driving like a maniac doing 40km + over the speed limit, I will not move over at all as they are a danger to the rest of the drivers on the road.

[jammies]

1. Speeding is against the law. It may also be morally wrong and stupid, depending on road conditions, traffic and driver skill.
2. Excessive speeding (more than 25 km/h over the limit or so) is always morally wrong, stupid, and selfish, as well as still being against the law.
3. Speeding coupled with tailgating, flashing one's lights, and cursing other drivers is not only morally wrong, it is immature and shows lack of self-discipline. It is also very dangerous and borderline criminally negligent.
4. Poor drivers allow other people to annoy and distract them from paying attention to their own driving.
5. Good drivers drive defensively and avoid situations where they come in conflict with people doing any or all of #1, #2, #3, or #4.

So unless you are #5 almost all the time, you are not a good driver. Good driving is not dictated by reflexes, it is 90% mental awareness and 10% ability to handle your vehicle. Anyone can learn to handle their OWN car at high speed; the trick is learning how to handle other people's cars in your mind so that you don't need to rely on your reflexes.

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by 4X4

To clarify my psot re: uncarved...

Damn straight I go all the way to the end, or at least most of the way and merge in. WTF is the pavement there for? We pay to have it paved, why shouldn't we use it? Because some stupid granny decided to start flailing her arms and switching lanes 700 meters before the lane ran out. CAUSING TRAFFIC TO BACK UP?

You think I'm backing up traffic? Are you one of those ######s that starts merging immediately after 14th becomes level and 500 meters before teh lane runs out? Yeah. I'M backing up traffic. Fu**ing LOL.

You know 4X4....I could see where you were coming from with your arguement up until now. This statement is absolutly ######ed. It shows that YOU have no respect for other driver. It shows that YOU care nothing for other peoples time. Instead of getting into line like everyone else, you barge up to the front and slow everyone else down just so you can be let into the front.

It is really unbelievable, talk about calling the kettle black.