2025 NFL Offseason Thread

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

JSN, for sure. They have some guys who can play WR3 / WR4 roles. But they absolutely need a solid second option as Lockett isn't going to be back. I'm not sure how they feel about the tight end room with Barner, Brown and Fant - seems "just OK" to me. They're almost certainly drafting a WR but that likely isn't a solution for this year.

Just a little weird they would be trading guys, but turn around and sign a QB like this.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by devo22

for what it's worth, I'd have had no issue at all giving Darnold or Fields the contracts that they got. But that might be the fear of A A Ron in me talking.

lol

Going to be hilarious seeing Tomlin, Rodgers and Pickens.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Just a little weird they would be trading guys, but turn around and sign a QB like this.

I don't think it is at all. I think they would have stuck with Geno, but not for over $40M per year, or at least not for over 2 years at that rate given that he's 34 years old. So when Geno wasn't willing to come in at a number they could live with, they went cheaper and younger, with a lower floor and a higher ceiling. It's a gamble.

On DK, that was just... no one should pay that guy what the Steelers just did. He's not a very good route runner and not a great catcher of the football, he's just a physical freak. That type of guy is not someone you should be paying that kind of money to until he's into his 30s. Even Julio Jones couldn't keep being that guy as he aged and DK is not Julio Jones.

So it's not really weird if you look at it as hiring a new OC in Kubiak and going and getting him the QB he just worked with in San Fran 2 years ago, presumably they're all aligned that he can execute what Kubiak and MM want from their QB. And this gives you more flexibility to hopefully protect him - as the O line has been the weak link for Seattle forever - and give him a decent run game to rely on, which Geno did not have, again thanks to the poor O line.

[KelVarnsen]

I am going to laugh when Darnold throws 4 or 5 picks against the Vikings next season

[KelVarnsen]

Pickett to Browns
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...mpson-robinson

[DropIt]

Happy for Fields. Good to see he got paid.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by KelVarnsen

Pickett to Browns
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...mpson-robinson

How often do you acquire the QB who took the final snaps for the current Super Bowl champs? Browns making moves.

[Galakanokis]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

This just... isn't true? The weeks 12-16 of the regular season he was 14TD 2INT, 69% completion rate (nice), 287 ypg and 8.1 ypa, he was good. He basically sucked for the last two games. Now, it's certainly fair to say those were the "prove it" games and the most important of the season and it's reasonable to have doubts based on those, but to say he was terrible the last "4-5 weeks" just isn't reality-based.

Rich Eisen went on the air this morning and predicted that this deal would be 50 million per season, and it's 55M guaranteed total. If it doesn't work out this year they're not tied to anything, and they're not contenders this year anyway unless something very strange happens, so it seems like it's worth a shot.

I might just be remembering those last two games. Obviously really. Or the team as a whole down the stretch wasn't good. I hate the Vikings so don't pay too much attention to them.

True, the structure of the contract is team friendly but it still feels odd to make the moves they made and then sign a QB to big time money. It is not like Darnold is a proven commodity. They are not contenders so they are paying this money for what? I would have taken Fields on that deal over this.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Galakanokis

I might just be remembering those last two games. Obviously really. Or the team as a whole down the stretch wasn't good. I hate the Vikings so don't pay too much attention to them.

True, the structure of the contract is team friendly but it still feels odd to make the moves they made and then sign a QB to big time money. It is not like Darnold is a proven commodity. They are not contenders so they are paying this money for what? I would have taken Fields on that deal over this.

It's not big time money, though. It's essentially one of two things. Either last year was a total anomaly and Darnold is actually bad, in which case the Seahawks are essentially rebuilding anyway and this deal doesn't hurt them in undertaking that rebuilding process. Or the last 3 years are a positive upward trend for Darnold, and he's gotten to a point where he's now an average-to-above-average starting QB. In which case $33M for that, given the current QB market and where it's going, is a steal, and the Seahawks are just re-tooling as more of a defense-first team with a run-focused offense to match their head coach's priorities.

There just isn't a ton of risk to doing this, as far as I can see. If they'd kept Geno, their ceiling is probably 11 wins or so for the next two seasons, and maybe 1-3 total wins in the playoffs. Their ceiling here is probably roughly similar, maybe slightly higher for slightly longer if they make the right bets on O line. The floor is lower, because if Darnold returns to his Jets self they are probably a 5 win team or whatever, but if that happens at least you've essentially forced yourself to commit to a couple years of rebuilding so there's some certainty at least.

Fields would be an OK bet along the same lines, it's just that Darnold has shown that at least in the right situation he can play well over the course of a full season, where Fields hasn't proved that. So basically I think they're paying more for a higher likelihood that it works out. But I wouldn't have been mad at them making a higher risk bet on Fields.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

How often do you acquire the QB who took the final snaps for the current Super Bowl champs? Browns making moves.

[KelVarnsen]

Milfs in Miami are excited about the news that Zach Wilson has signed with Miami
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...-sign-dolphins

[ResAlien]

Greenlaw and Hufanga to Denver fills a couple big needs. Get engram next and go RB/WR/TE/ then depth in the draft isn't a terrible plan

[browna]

As far as Darnold, just hoping for a Matt Flynn/Russell Wilson type situation where a draft pick can emerging before Darnold's 3 years are up.

Just seems the Seahawks are sliding into a mid level range.

Like then or hate them, under Carroll they had personality and characters, part of the way that PC and JS built the team; Lynch, Legion of Boom, early seasons of Wilson etc, and then a feel good story like Geno these last years.

Even when they lost those players you had the demonstrative and eternally positive old man coach to give the team that juice and character.

Now they seem to fading into the background like an Indy or Houston.

Nondescript coach and QB. No strong team identity. No question MM has a plan, as does JS, but does the organization have the patience to wait it out?

Again Seattle has won only 3 playoff games in the past 10 seasons since losing the back end of the back to back Superbowl. Cap space isn't an issue and owners have funds as they always have.

[Sainters7]

Eagles trade CJ Gardner-Johnson to the Texans. Great player, A+ instigator, but he wears out his welcome everywhere he goes with his antics.

https://x.com/RapSheet/status/189946...SYdtfo0bQ&s=19

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Sainters7

Eagles trade CJ Gardner-Johnson to the Texans. Great player, A+ instigator, but he wears out his welcome everywhere he goes with his antics.

https://x.com/RapSheet/status/189946...SYdtfo0bQ&s=19

It's a weird move. CJGJ was well-liked in Philly.

Green is dog####, but maybe Stoutland believes he can reform him like Becton and they get to save some cap space.

EDIT: Looks like a cap-casualty. Eagles have made a bunch of moves that accelerates some of their cap hits to this year and then leaves them with a whole bunch of room next year to re-sign some of their younger guys.

Sounds like Goedert is on his way out, too, if they can find a trade partner.

[browna]

Seattle with a seemingly solid pickup with DeMarcus Lawrence. Who knows what he has left in the tank, but certainly an upgrade over what they have had.

Rodgers getting closer to the Favre career arc, as the Steelers talk has cooled and now Vikings are sniffing around. Rodgers is going to take his time and do what he wants on his timeline, that's been clear a lot in the past 4 years, but for all sorts of reasons, joining the Vikings would be a whole lot of irony, coincidence and everything else that following the guy that held him out of the league for a few years longer than anywhere else. Plus the Vikings have established weapons the Steelers and Giants don't.

[calgarygeologist]

Sweet, Mason Rudolph is back in Pittsburgh!

[Paulie Walnuts]

Cooper Kupp is a ….. Seahawk lol

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Cooper Kupp is a ….. Seahawk lol

Such a weird offseason for the Hawks. Went from Smith, Lockett, Metcalf to Darnold, Kupp, and Valdes-Scantling. They will be different for sure but I'm not sure if they will be better.

[chummer]

Kupp is a weapon, he just seems to get hurt a lot.