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Old 01-21-2025, 08:01 AM   #121
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You’re right. The rules should apply to everyone equally. Garland deserved a penalty on that play whether it was Connor McDavid or Kevin Rooney. The thing is though, Garlund is never doing that to Kevin Rooney.
So you are literally arguing that McDavid needs protection from.....being held?

Seriously?
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You’re right. The rules should apply to everyone equally. Garland deserved a penalty on that play whether it was Connor McDavid or Kevin Rooney. The thing is though, Garlund is never doing that to Kevin Rooney.
McDavid deserved the first penalty on the play. I guess holding Mcdavid is far worse than punching Garland in the back of the head while he's laying flat on the ice.
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I agree that McDavid should be protected like Mahomes... if he goes down and lie on the ice on his own, the play should end and no one be allowed to hit him.

And also like Mahomes, if he wants to continue the play, then he is fair game to be hit.

We can give one player on each team a gold helmet, and that player is allowed to lie down and not be hit.

This is what you're asking for, Oiler fans.
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Old 01-21-2025, 08:24 AM   #124
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You’re right. The rules should apply to everyone equally. Garland deserved a penalty on that play whether it was Connor McDavid or Kevin Rooney. The thing is though, Garlund is never doing that to Kevin Rooney.
Garland did get a penalty on that play, he (along with others) got 2 minutes for roughing. Also the oilers had possession of the puck, did you want the refs to blow the play dead instead of the standard delayed penalty?
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Old 01-21-2025, 08:26 AM   #125
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You’re right. The rules should apply to everyone equally. Garland deserved a penalty on that play whether it was Connor McDavid or Kevin Rooney. The thing is though, Garlund is never doing that to Kevin Rooney.
This is where you are flat out wrong, and wildly biased. Holding and grabbing happens every game, to everybody. And yes, stars get checked, and even held, all the time. Always have. But for some reason, Oiler fans and Oiler media are just seeing it for the first time, because it's happening to McDavid too. Oh noes, it isn't fair!

You know what isn't allowed? Elbows to the head and spears to the nuts. But who gets away with more of those than anyone else in the league?
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You’re right. The rules should apply to everyone equally. Garland deserved a penalty on that play whether it was Connor McDavid or Kevin Rooney. The thing is though, Garlund is never doing that to Kevin Rooney.
I LOVE that this is the play that has Oiler sycophants climbing out of the woodwork to make their statements of outrage and self-pity. Everyone else in the league looks at that play and sees McDavid get away with two flagrant fouls before Garland interferes/holds, resulting in McDavid losing it and completely overreacting.

And somehow Oiler fanboys think that this actually proves some imbalance in how McDavid is treated. Well, technically, it does. He gets away with way more than he should and, for once, it finally caught up with him.

As per your idiotic comparison, Garland would never have done that to Rooney, because Rooney would've been in the penalty box already. There's your double standard.
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If a player pushes Mahomes out of bounds, late, is Mahomes allowed to cross-check that player in the face, with impunity?

I don't remember that rule, to be honest.
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More denial from Oilers fans.

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Old 01-21-2025, 08:39 AM   #129
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You’re right. The rules should apply to everyone equally. Garland deserved a penalty on that play whether it was Connor McDavid or Kevin Rooney. The thing is though, Garlund is never doing that to Kevin Rooney.
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We need to begin calling players who hold sticks to draw hooking penalties
We need to call ALL the slew footing
We need to call ALL the elbows to the face
We need to call ALL the pick/interference plays
We need to call diving more
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What is going to happen when during one of those all too frequent dives where the skates come up to neck/face level, someone gets seriously injured?
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I think what the Oilers and McDavid are getting is he is lucky Garland wasn't injured. Reilly got more games for his cross check on that Ottawa player. At the end of the day McDavid has been suspended twice now for shots to players heads. Probably got away with one against the wild. Not a good look on him.
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Old 01-21-2025, 08:49 AM   #131
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You’re right. The rules should apply to everyone equally. Garland deserved a penalty on that play whether it was Connor McDavid or Kevin Rooney. The thing is though, Garlund is never doing that to Kevin Rooney.
Yes because Kevin Rooney would not be on the ice late in the game with the Flames down by a goal.
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You’re right. The rules should apply to everyone equally. Garland deserved a penalty on that play whether it was Connor McDavid or Kevin Rooney. The thing is though, Garlund is never doing that to Kevin Rooney.
So here are the options as I see them:

1) They blow it dead because of Garland's hold or interference.
Result? Oilers are up in arms as they had the puck. Maybe they win the draw maybe they don't...50-50 benefit. Oh yeah, there's 10 seconds left.

2) The ref puts his hand up for a delayed penalty.
Result? Nothing happens as the Oilers have the puck. Maybe they give it to a Canuck. Maybe the Canuck is smart enough to not play it. No benefit.

3) Both players are called for interference/holding/roughing.
Result? 5 on 4 for 10 seconds, without your Golden Child on the ice, and the faceoff is outside.

Which of those should it have been?
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So here are the options as I see them:

1) They blow it dead because of Garland's hold or interference.
Result? Oilers are up in arms as they had the puck. Maybe they win the draw maybe they don't...50-50 benefit. Oh yeah, there's 10 seconds left.

2) The ref puts his hand up for a delayed penalty.
Result? Nothing happens as the Oilers have the puck. Maybe they give it to a Canuck. Maybe the Canuck is smart enough to not play it. No benefit.

3) Both players are called for interference/holding/roughing.
Result? 5 on 4 for 10 seconds, without your Golden Child on the ice, and the faceoff is outside.

Which of those should it have been?
It should have been #4:

4) Goal should have been awarded to McDavid for having to suffer mental trauma from being forced to cross-check another player in the face.
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Dude cites COREY PERRY for a post about fair play/cheap shots.
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So here are the options as I see them:

1) They blow it dead because of Garland's hold or interference.
Result? Oilers are up in arms as they had the puck. Maybe they win the draw maybe they don't...50-50 benefit. Oh yeah, there's 10 seconds left.

2) The ref puts his hand up for a delayed penalty.
Result? Nothing happens as the Oilers have the puck. Maybe they give it to a Canuck. Maybe the Canuck is smart enough to not play it. No benefit.

3) Both players are called for interference/holding/roughing.
Result? 5 on 4 for 10 seconds, without your Golden Child on the ice, and the faceoff is outside.

Which of those should it have been?
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Absolutely, but Perry (and McDavid, etc) want this to apply to "superstars". You can't single out individuals so you have to apply it to their position. So while they protect goalies they'd also need to protects centres. To make sure stars like McDavid, Matthews etc are protected.
I suppose Perry will take it upon himself to treat MacKinnon, Makar, Crosby, Kucherov, Bedard, etc. gingerly from here on out.
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I suppose Perry will take it upon himself to treat MacKinnon, Makar, Crosby, Kucherov, Bedard, etc. gingerly from here on out.
Yep. Corry Petty never thought this through.
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So here are the options as I see them:

1) They blow it dead because of Garland's hold or interference.
Result? Oilers are up in arms as they had the puck. Maybe they win the draw maybe they don't...50-50 benefit. Oh yeah, there's 10 seconds left.

2) The ref puts his hand up for a delayed penalty.
Result? Nothing happens as the Oilers have the puck. Maybe they give it to a Canuck. Maybe the Canuck is smart enough to not play it. No benefit.

3) Both players are called for interference/holding/roughing.
Result? 5 on 4 for 10 seconds, without your Golden Child on the ice, and the faceoff is outside.

Which of those should it have been?
I'd argue that Garland was intentionally trying to take a penalty there.

10 seconds left, why wouldn't you have a player simply tackle McDavid?

Exactly because of the only outcomes are as you state above.
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