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Old 01-21-2025, 01:25 AM   #101
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The funny thing is that whole thing that set off the whole sequence was McDavid interfering with Garland. McDavid had possession of the puck and dished it off to hit Garland (getting the elbow high at that) and then laid on top of him. With the whistles put away, why wouldn't Garland take advantage of that?

The initial call should have been on McDavid and play should have stopped. But the Oilers were pressing and the refs let it slide.
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Old 01-21-2025, 01:27 AM   #102
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DOPS suspensions need a complete overhaul. Should be pretty easy: any violent stick-to-head infraction should be a serious suspension. Say, at least 30 games. Non-hockey play. Violent. Can lead to serious, permanent head injury. Needs to be removed from the game. No need for it.

In the NFL, Myles Garrett took off a players helmet and swung the helmet at the player. That yielded an indefinite suspension, ultimately worth 6 games + potential playoff games = 37%+ of a season. Most commentators think that wasn't strict enough.
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Old 01-21-2025, 01:28 AM   #103
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So they want their team to dress a bunch of goons to get revenge against 5'7" Conor Garland for holding? The hilarious thing is that McWhiny is pissed at Garland at the end but doesn't have the chutzpah to just drop the gloves even though he has 5 inches and 30 pounds on Garland, but instead does the cheapshot.

The "our superstars are what's driving the league revenues and need to have special treatment" is rich--they sucked so hard for years (without trying to tank) coupled with crazy lottery luck and got a bunch of first round picks. They ruined most of them, and they didn't deserve any of them. How about the true injustice? That any star player has to play in stinktown?

But there are so many ex-Oilers polluting the fabric of Sportsnet it's no wonder we're hearing the chorus of media bleating.

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Old 01-21-2025, 02:27 AM   #104
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Old 01-21-2025, 05:40 AM   #105
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DOPS suspensions need a complete overhaul. Should be pretty easy: any violent stick-to-head infraction should be a serious suspension. Say, at least 30 games. Non-hockey play. Violent. Can lead to serious, permanent head injury. Needs to be removed from the game. No need for it.

In the NFL, Myles Garrett took off a players helmet and swung the helmet at the player. That yielded an indefinite suspension, ultimately worth 6 games + potential playoff games = 37%+ of a season. Most commentators think that wasn't strict enough.
I kind of like a little ron hextall (flyers fan) it's entertainment
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McDavid considering scaling back NHL tour events in protest is actually a real rumour?

I thought someone here was making that up for a laugh. If remotely true that is really pathetic.
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McDavid considering scaling back NHL tour events in protest is actually a real rumour?

I thought someone here was making that up for a laugh. If remotely true that is really pathetic.
Not made up, and I think it should escalate his suspension. Can't have guys publicly crapping on the league like that , but more importantly it's an attempt to manipulate the on ice game, by threatening the profits of the league.
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I love the attempt to compare the "superstar" player protection with that of the QB protection in the NFL.

I assume people like Perry who bring this up aren't thinking that the rules to protect the QB, while they may have been created to make sure marketable stars stay healthy, they apply to ALL QBs.

The same rule that protects Mahomes is in place for Minshew or Flacco etc.

So if we take that and apply it to the NHL, we'd make sure all centres got the calls? So the rules that apply to McDavid would then also apply to say, Kevin Rooney. Or anyone that takes on the centre role during the course of a game. So we could have Pospisil run wild over 40 minutes and then stick him at C in the 3rd to draw calls.
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I love the attempt to compare the "superstar" player protection with that of the QB protection in the NFL.

I assume people like Perry who bring this up aren't thinking that the rules to protect the QB, while they may have been created to make sure marketable stars stay healthy, they apply to ALL QBs.

The same rule that protects Mahomes is in place for Minshew or Flacco etc.

So if we take that and apply it to the NHL, we'd make sure all centres got the calls? So the rules that apply to McDavid would then also apply to say, Kevin Rooney. Or anyone that takes on the centre role during the course of a game. So we could have Pospisil run wild over 40 minutes and then stick him at C in the 3rd to draw calls.
Football and Hockey already have equivalent rules. Football protects QBs. Hockey protects goalies.
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The Oilers want McBaby to have zero obstruction. Maybe for Oiler games, they should make the opposition stay off the ice, sitting on the bench watching in awe as the crybaby skates around with his teammates scoring 100 goals a game. Yeh, that's the thing to do.
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I love the attempt to compare the "superstar" player protection with that of the QB protection in the NFL.

I assume people like Perry who bring this up aren't thinking that the rules to protect the QB, while they may have been created to make sure marketable stars stay healthy, they apply to ALL QBs.

The same rule that protects Mahomes is in place for Minshew or Flacco etc.

So if we take that and apply it to the NHL, we'd make sure all centres got the calls? So the rules that apply to McDavid would then also apply to say, Kevin Rooney. Or anyone that takes on the centre role during the course of a game. So we could have Pospisil run wild over 40 minutes and then stick him at C in the 3rd to draw calls.
You’re right. The rules should apply to everyone equally. Garland deserved a penalty on that play whether it was Connor McDavid or Kevin Rooney. The thing is though, Garlund is never doing that to Kevin Rooney.
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What exactly does the NHL need to protect McDavid from? He's handed out far more cheapshots than he's received over his career. Hooking and holding is strictly obstruction and something all skilled NHL players have to deal with so I just have a hard time trying to understand what the Edmonton media is crying about here. After all he's the player that made the dangerous cross check. The whiners in Edmonton need to realize that this is the NHL and not the McDavid Hockey League.
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Football and Hockey already have equivalent rules. Football protects QBs. Hockey protects goalies.
Absolutely, but Perry (and McDavid, etc) want this to apply to "superstars". You can't single out individuals so you have to apply it to their position. So while they protect goalies they'd also need to protects centres. To make sure stars like McDavid, Matthews etc are protected.
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Old 01-21-2025, 07:51 AM   #117
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You’re right. The rules should apply to everyone equally. Garland deserved a penalty on that play whether it was Connor McDavid or Kevin Rooney. The thing is though, Garlund is never doing that to Kevin Rooney.
Doesn't matter. The rules to protect centres would still apply to everyone. So if say, Ekholm, was laying on Rooney, it'd be the same. And Oilers fans would throw a #### fit over it.

Also someone laying on top of another guy is hardly grounds for protection. And has been pointed out by pretty much every analyst, pundit, etc the Oilers possessed the puck during that event. They blow the play dead, Oilers whine. They kept it alive, Oilers whine anyway and we get the retaliation.
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You’re right. The rules should apply to everyone equally. Garland deserved a penalty on that play whether it was Connor McDavid or Kevin Rooney. The thing is though, Garlund is never doing that to Kevin Rooney.
Have referees ever missed a call on the Oilers?
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The Oilers want McBaby to have zero obstruction. Maybe for Oiler games, they should make the opposition stay off the ice, sitting on the bench watching in awe as the crybaby skates around with his teammates scoring 100 goals a game. Yeh, that's the thing to do.
They want opponents to pretend like they're trying but not try so hard as to deny Connor 5 points and a bumonton win because they're entitled to that every night.
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