[Trade] NYR trade Kakko to Seattle for Borgen, 2025 3rd, 2025 6th

[TheIronMaiden]

HA HA #### you Adam Fox

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

well, better to sharpen the pencil and put a more serious offer sooner, if anything is to be learned of this scenario. Probably unimportant in the long run, but it would have been nice to give someone like Kakko a shot here.

Meh, they can't overpay for every reclamation project at the start of a rebuild.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

well, better to sharpen the pencil and put a more serious offer sooner, if anything is to be learned of this scenario. Probably unimportant in the long run, but it would have been nice to give someone like Kakko a shot here.

If Kakko was a natural center I'd be more annoyed by it, but really we have so many wingers in this organization right now.

Veterans: Huberdeau, Coleman, Sharangovich, Lomberg

Youngsters: Coronato, Pospisil, Zary (if we add a center), Pelletier, Honzek, Klapka, Stromgren, Gridin, Basha, Battaglia, Suniev

Unless it was a winger for winger trade then it probably wasn't worth it for the Flames to be moving a collection of assets because winger is not an area of need for this team at all.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug

That looks terrible, but it might have more to do with MSG/Dolan than it does Drury. Seems to be coming right from the top and affecting all of those franchises.

That's definitely what it looks like.

To me, it smells like corporate legal staff wanting a sure-fire CYA for any of the kind of ‘interactions’ between players and staff that (quite properly) led to scandals and lawsuits in Chicago. But with the finesse we have come to expect from corporate legal staff, they wrote the policy like a shrink-wrap software licence, with the most onerous and restrictive terms they could think of, and then forced all the line employees to swallow it as a condition of employment.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

If Kakko was a natural center I'd be more annoyed by it, but really we have so many wingers in this organization right now.

Veterans: Huberdeau, Coleman, Sharangovich, Lomberg

Youngsters: Coronato, Pospisil, Zary (if we add a center), Pelletier, Honzek, Klapka, Stromgren, Gridin, Basha, Battaglia, Suniev

Unless it was a winger for winger trade then it probably wasn't worth it for the Flames to be moving a collection of assets because winger is not an area of need for this team at all.

If McTavish or Zegras go cheap I’ll be miffed

[Calgary4LIfe]

I would like a shot at McTavish, but I would rather stay away from Zegras.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Glad Conroy didn't go there.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

I would like a shot at McTavish, but I would rather stay away from Zegras.

If Zegras is going to go for the price Kakko just went for, I think we should be willing to try that for sure.

[Monahammer]

But the preference is to pay more to get McTavish if that is realistic at all. Obviously.

[868904]

Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.

Wow... basically forcing the players to act like a-holes and not mingle with 'the help'

That's some grade A toxicity right there.

It's easy to paint it like that, but the reality is this is probably a result of the Corey Perry incident in Chicago and others like it in sports in general.

Honestly, athletes are in a position of power and that can be used by both the athlete and by non-athletes in bad ways.

I can see why management would take this approach.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.

Wow... basically forcing the players to act like a-holes and not mingle with 'the help'

That's some grade A toxicity right there.

Tailies.

[Bend it like Bourgeois]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

If Kakko was a natural center I'd be more annoyed by it, but really we have so many wingers in this organization right now.

Veterans: Huberdeau, Coleman, Sharangovich, Lomberg

Youngsters: Coronato, Pospisil, Zary (if we add a center), Pelletier, Honzek, Klapka, Stromgren, Gridin, Basha, Battaglia, Suniev

Unless it was a winger for winger trade then it probably wasn't worth it for the Flames to be moving a collection of assets because winger is not an area of need for this team at all.

I’m not sure Kakko was the guy to bet on so no fuss but would poke a bit at your premise the Flames don’t need a winger. the flames still have needs everywhere. C tops the list, but it’s a long list.

If a different winger of that age comes along with a bit more promising skill profile the flames should absolutely be in. The team has quantity at wing but not a lot of quality - beyond some most recent picks who are years away, if ever.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Bend it like Bourgeois

I’m not sure Kakko was the guy to bet on so no fuss but would poke a bit at your premise the Flames don’t need a winger. the flames still have needs everywhere. C tops the list, but it’s a long list.

If a different winger of that age comes along with a bit more promising skill profile the flames should absolutely be in. The team has quantity at wing but not a lot of quality - beyond some most recent picks who are years away, if ever.

They have needs everywhere, but if you only have a certain amount of assets you need to spend them on the highest areas of need.

[Bend it like Bourgeois]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

They have needs everywhere, but if you only have a certain amount of assets you need to spend them on the highest areas of need.

Sure. Acquisition and opportunity cost always matter.

[BigThief]

Devils crew played the video of Ranger fans cheering at the 2019 draft when the Devils selected Hughes (so they could get Kakko).

https://twitter.com/user/status/1871289626637517262

Cold as ice. Jack Hughes laughing on the bench