[PGT] 2024 Draft - Your Overall Thoughts & Ratings

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by butterfly

To your point, it does reward taking fallers and punish reaching. I don't think anyone would categorically claim that is a good strategy.

Yup, that is what I was getting at

[iloveicedhockey]

Loved the focus on skill; seemed to be a recurring theme in the interviews. It maybe tailed off towards the end of the draft but great to see we focused on that early. While ultimately meaningless, it's still nice to see people who specialize in the draft for media, etc. comment on how well we did.

[sureLoss]

Okay here is one thing I liked.

Actually using a high 2nd round pick on a non goalie!

There has been only 3 times since 2003, the Flames had a top 10 pick in the 2nd round.

2014 took Mason McDonald
2016 traded the pick for Brian Elliot. Blues took Kyrou
2024- Basha


Goalies are so unsexy in early round picks unless they are generational talents.

Using a high 2nd for once on a forward for once, thank Jeebus!

[boogerz]

Time will tell, but it it feels like a really good draft by Conroy and the scouting crew.


Getting Parekh with the 9th OA is unreal. Basha and Misa were both potential late 1sts...grabbing them in later rounds is also really good. Laing and Hoskins are questionable, but everyone else seems like solid picks.

Nice to see the Flames back to prioritizing skill and hockey sense over pure size.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

I still don't get why the Canucks included Brzustewicz into the Lindholm trade. I'm sure Conroy would have taken the deal even without him.

They got the better prospect for taking cap dump Kuzmenko.

That turned out pretty good.

[Goriders]

The flames org chart is massively devoid of centers. Surprised the didn’t take one with on of the first 3 picks.

We had too many goalies but sorted that out. Now we have too many D. Not sure where they are going to put them all.

I’m thinking free agency is going to answer a lot of questions. Feels like some more shoes are going to drop. We have too much cap space for them not to.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by boogerz

Time will tell, but it it feels like a really good draft by Conroy and the scouting crew.


Getting Parekh with the 9th OA is unreal. Basha and Misa were both potential late 1sts...grabbing them in later rounds is also really good. Laing and Hoskins are questionable, but everyone else seems like solid picks.

Nice to see the Flames back to prioritizing skill and hockey sense over pure size.

Re:Misa, when you draft a guy in the 5th round, it’s impossible to say he was a potential 1st. Even the flames passed him over multiple times before selecting him.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by boogerz

Time will tell, but it it feels like a really good draft by Conroy and the scouting crew.


Getting Parekh with the 9th OA is unreal. Basha and Misa were both potential late 1sts...grabbing them in later rounds is also really good. Laing and Hoskins are questionable, but everyone else seems like solid picks.

Nice to see the Flames back to prioritizing skill and hockey sense over pure size.

If it wasn't Parekh, it would have been Catton, Iginla, Buium, etc. That was a no-brainer pick.

Only picks I didn't get were Gridin and Hoskin.

[Calgary4LIfe]

I think the Flames did really well here today. The prospects selected seem to have high-upside. Time will tell if they become NHLer's, and if so, what their impact will be, but for today, it is hard not to feel good about it overall.


Fallers and risers are always tricky. This is an 18 year old draft, not a 22 year old draft. There is just a much higher degree of uncertainty. I think it is probably more interesting to figure out why some of the prospects were taken ahead of where they were ranked, and why some were taken after. Then wait and see if the answers hold up.


I graded the draft an A. The only disappointment (outside of not drafting Tij), was Conroy not making a move to acquire a bad cap hit with sweeteners, but I am sure that this is coming soon. Calgary really has to weaponize this cap space. There are franchise players to be found throughout the draft, as well as high-end support players. Yes, rare, but the more bullets, the better. It also allows Calgary to move up in the drafts better when you have a deep prospect base. Calgary is very deep now on defence and in net. Just need to build the forwards now (especially centres) starting next draft.


This was excellent.

[boogerz]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Re:Misa, when you draft a guy in the 5th round, it’s impossible to say he was a potential 1st. Even the flames passed him over multiple times before selecting him.

He might have fallen a lot, but the pre-draft rankings from multiple sites had him in the same range as Basha as a potential late first or early second rounder.

FC had him as high as 17th and Dobber had him as high as 21st.

[Snuffleupagus]

Easy A

But I only wish we could have found a way to snag Poirier, I have a feeling Carolina found gold with that kid at 156.

[the-rasta-masta]

I just ran a few of the draft simulators, using different lists (Button, Mckenzie, FC Hockey, Draft Pros, Consensus), and tried to make the picks the Flames took today at each draft slot we had. Only ones I was able to consistently get were Gridin and Battaglia. Mews, Misa, and Basha were all taken in most of them in 1st and early 2nd rounds. I think that shows the value in the picks we took today.

[Niemo]

I’m going to super Parekh now, but Buium instead of Parekh and this would’ve been A+ for me.

Hoping Parekh gains 10 lbs off muscle this off-season.

[Niemo]

Would’ve been nice to move up into the top 50. We had the bullets.

[Phil Russell]

Like others have said, love the direction. Drafting skill, drafting for high end players, less cautious. This is a significantly different approach and I am pleased. A question for the group is why the change? Is it simply bcs we are in rebuilding mode now and there is greater urgency for high-end players? Is it a change in management philosophy regarding safe picks? Or is it just the result of having an abundance of picks and as a result not being as afraid to fail on a given pick. Maybe a combination?

[ForeverFlameFan]

A was my vote. We went with what was given to us. Didn’t get a top end center but that’s because they weren’t really available in the first round. Happy to get Parekh once Iggy and Catton were taken.

2025 will help us grab our future center.

[cral12]

Another cool way to look at the draft

From: Sandman's Prospect Tiers/Shelves

1) Celebrini

2) Demidov

3) Levshunov/ Dickinson/ Buium

4) Iginla/ Parekh/ Silayev

5) Sennecke/ Catton/ Yakemchuk/ Lindstrom

6) Helenius/ Eiserman

7) Hage/ Chernyshov/ Greentree

8) Ritchie/ Brandsegg-Nygard/ Connelly/ Surin/ Jiricek

9) Hemming/Solberg

10) Luchanko/ Parascak/Freij

11) Petterson/ Boisvert/ Hutson/ Mews

12) Artamonov/ Vanacker/ Emery/ Gridin/ Kiviharju/ Wellenius/ Beaudoin/ Howe/ Letourneau/ Basha/ Masse

13) Franson/ Badinka/ O'Reilly/ Pulkkinen/ Elick/ Miettinen

14) Misa/ Eriksson/ Marques/ Brunicke/ Fischer/ Gill

15) Poirier/ Stiga/ Jecho/ Ziemer/ Danford/ Zether/ Boilard/ Bednarik/ Roberts/ Vaisanen/ Marrelli

16) Skahan/ Smith/ Battaglia/ Fernstrom/ Mustard/ Humphreys/ Plante/ Ustinkov

17) Burrows/ Kleber/ Muggli/ Vinni/ Zellers/ Nabokov

18) Pikkarainen/ Saarinen/ Spellacy/ Pitner/ Josephson/ Eliasson/ Shuravin/ Kos

19) Mateiko/ Muhonen/ Fibigr/ Soini/ Caswell

20) George/ Koivu/ Leenders/ Cristoforo

21) Villeneuve/ Zetterberg/ Wetsch/ Lavoie

+ Zarulin, Upside's 4th ranked goalie.
+ Eric Jamieson was Upside's 5th ranked overager and 115th ranked overall

Hearing more on the couple more unknown lads and the purposeful drafting of them, hard to give anything less than a Grade A for our draft class.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by Goriders

The flames org chart is massively devoid of centers. Surprised the didn’t take one with on of the first 3 picks.

We had too many goalies but sorted that out. Now we have too many D. Not sure where they are going to put them all.

I’m thinking free agency is going to answer a lot of questions. Feels like some more shoes are going to drop. We have too much cap space for them not to.

Defencemen take longer to develop

Definitely draft those first

Next year we will be bottom 6 and have first crack in each round to take our centers.

You don’t want your forwards developing out of their entry level contracts into pricey players before your defenceman are done developing

[Paulie Walnuts]

Like I said to Diss. The Flames are using all the picks to make selections. No picks are being traded for players today.

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Like I said to Diss. The Flames are using all the picks to make selections. No picks are being traded for players today.

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