[PGT] Kraken beat Flames 2-1

[Infinit47]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

Ahhhh... I think you might want to actually check Huskas resume vs Loves .

Huska did very well in Kelowna 2 championships as assistant coach, 1 championship as head coach . He also coach that kelowna team to have pretty good success in yhe playoffs repeatedly. . Meh , in Ahl but made the playoffs more than a few times with a complete #### roster. His junior career playing was pretty good too

Mitch love on the other hand, continually was assist coach for Everett who in his time was always ranked top 3 (one year 5th) but never made it past the first round. Same story as head coach in Saskatoon. His only real success was last year with a very Stacked Wranglers .

Huskas resume is much better if you compare the 2.

People sure love twisting things on this forum. I said Love had more success coaching professionals, which is undeniably true.

And I never said Love was an amazing coach, I said he would have been a better hire than Huska since he has had success in a league much closer to the NHL than junior hockey.

Bringing up Huska's junior success and ignoring how bad he was in the AHL is disingenuous. How far back do we go? Perhaps Huska's wet noodle version of zone defense and perimeter shot offense work great in the WHL but not in professional hockey where skaters are faster and stronger and goalies are much better.

I and other posters have had specific complaints about Huska's style of play, and it is always met with "the players suck". Maybe his defenders should say what they think the team does well under him. I already said he had the PK clicking, but outside of that it's a hit mess, and I think the problems are not solely related to the skill of the players.

I think with a proper coach this team is battling for a playoff spot, not a huge stretch.

If you disagree take a look at Zadorov's recent comments about how much better the coaching is in Vancouver.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by Infinit47

People sure love twisting things on this forum. I said Love had more success coaching professionals, which is undeniably true.

And I never said Love was an amazing coach, I said he would have been a better hire than Huska since he has had success in a league much closer to the NHL than junior hockey.

Bringing up Huska's junior success and ignoring how bad he was in the AHL is disingenuous. How far back do we go? Perhaps Huska's wet noodle version of zone defense and perimeter shot offense work great in the WHL but not in professional hockey where skaters are faster and stronger and goalies are much better.

I and other posters have had specific complaints about Huska's style of play, and it is always met with "the players suck". Maybe his defenders should say what they think the team does well under him. I already said he had the PK clicking, but outside of that it's a hit mess, and I think the problems are not solely related to the skill of the players.

I think with a proper coach this team is battling for a playoff spot, not a huge stretch.

If you disagree take a look at Zadorov's recent comments about how much better the coaching is in Vancouver.

I don't think Huska is a great coach, and he very well could be a bad coach, but there is nothing to think that Love would be a better coach. There is nothing in Love's background to suggest he should be an NHL coach, let alone someone that can get a team with very little talent to compete for anything.

[Infinit47]

Originally Posted by Spurs

I don't think Huska is a great coach, and he very well could be a bad coach, but there is nothing to think that Love would be a better coach. There is nothing in Love's background to suggest he should be an NHL coach, let alone someone that can get a team with very little talent to compete for anything.

That's totally fair. I was merely saying he had more head coaching success lately than Huska, albeit both are light on that front.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Infinit47

People sure love twisting things on this forum. I said Love had more success coaching professionals, which is undeniably true.

And I never said Love was an amazing coach, I said he would have been a better hire than Huska since he has had success in a league much closer to the NHL than junior hockey.

Bringing up Huska's junior success and ignoring how bad he was in the AHL is disingenuous. How far back do we go? Perhaps Huska's wet noodle version of zone defense and perimeter shot offense work great in the WHL but not in professional hockey where skaters are faster and stronger and goalies are much better.

I and other posters have had specific complaints about Huska's style of play, and it is always met with "the players suck". Maybe his defenders should say what they think the team does well under him. I already said he had the PK clicking, but outside of that it's a hit mess, and I think the problems are not solely related to the skill of the players.

I think with a proper coach this team is battling for a playoff spot, not a huge stretch.

If you disagree take a look at Zadorov's recent comments about how much better the coaching is in Vancouver.

You sir are delusional as can be....

No coach can save this team. Not Sutter ,Not Huska Not even the better Mitch love....

[All In Good Time]

I gotta say
For some reason, Huska reminds me in many ways of Pierre McGuire

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by All In Good Time

I gotta say
For some reason, Huska reminds me in many ways of Pierre McGuire

They look kind of similar. But how else?

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Infinit47

People sure love twisting things on this forum. I said Love had more success coaching professionals, which is undeniably true.

And I never said Love was an amazing coach, I said he would have been a better hire than Huska since he has had success in a league much closer to the NHL than junior hockey.

Bringing up Huska's junior success and ignoring how bad he was in the AHL is disingenuous. How far back do we go? Perhaps Huska's wet noodle version of zone defense and perimeter shot offense work great in the WHL but not in professional hockey where skaters are faster and stronger and goalies are much better.

I and other posters have had specific complaints about Huska's style of play, and it is always met with "the players suck". Maybe his defenders should say what they think the team does well under him. I already said he had the PK clicking, but outside of that it's a hit mess, and I think the problems are not solely related to the skill of the players.

I think with a proper coach this team is battling for a playoff spot, not a huge stretch.

If you disagree take a look at Zadorov's recent comments about how much better the coaching is in Vancouver.

What comments are you talking about? I've seen him say this:

“They’re super friendly, and it’s a great environment inside the room because the players and the coaches are connected; they’re like best friends,” Zadorov explained. “But we’re also super respectful to them and listening to them. It’s just a great chemistry between [the] coaching staff and the players.”

But I don't see where he said the coaching is better in Vancouver.

You are a glaring example of confirmation bias. You are seeking out information that validates something you long ago decided, and have no sincere interest in anything that is counter to that.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by zamler

League has over 600 active players so well above average.

Should probably compare it to league average salary as well.

Are you saying the flames should be satisfied as long as their leading scorer is above 300th in league scoring?

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by shadowlord

Those 3 players make nearly $20M in combined salary. 10.5 + 5.8 + 2.3. That's a lot of underperformers.

Could probably add Ruzicka on that line. Maybe a rotation with one guy in the press box.

[All In Good Time]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

They look kind of similar. But how else?

For me it’s more how he talks
I can’t pinpoint it but it comes across as lots of “stuff” and little substance. The same way McGuire rambles when he’s trying to come across as brilliant

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Vedder

Was worried about the Flames based on their lack of top end talent and a 14-16-5 record. Grateful to learn it’s only because they didn’t hire Mitch Love. Cancel the rebuild, this is clearly a systems issue.

There are very few coaches in the world that could coach this roster in the playoffs. I don't think Huska has been that bad of a coach but they haven't played well defensively and while I don't think Love could do much more with this roster you just hope he's not the good one that they let get away. I don't care what anyone says, what he was an outstanding AHL coach and you hate to let a guy like that in your organization go.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Infinit47

If you disagree take a look at Zadorov's recent comments about how much better the coaching is in Vancouver.

Calgary has not had great coaching. Matthew Tkachuk went to Florida and was amazed at how much better Maurice was as a coach compared to what he came from.

[dissentowner]

Why are people trying to use Huska's junior coaching record to defend him? It's juniors, it means nothing. Brian Kilrea was the most winningest coach in CHL history, how is his pro resume? There are a lot of junior coaches that won that never could cut it as a pro coach. There is nothing in his professional coaching record to suggest Ryan Huska is a winning coach. Nothing.

[CSharp]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Calgary has not had great coaching. Matthew Tkachuk went to Florida and was amazed at how much better Maurice was as a coach compared to what he came from.

LOL, the guy practically said he wanted to stay in Calgary before he jumped ship with Gaudreau. Maurice likely has him by the balls for the remainder of his contract for all we know.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Why are people trying to use Huska's junior coaching record to defend him? It's juniors, it means nothing. Brian Kilrea was the most winningest coach in CHL history, how is his pro resume? There are a lot of junior coaches that won that never could cut it as a pro coach. There is nothing in his professional coaching record to suggest Ryan Huska is a winning coach. Nothing.

It was done in comparison to Love who equally has no winning pedigree.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Seattle barely had any chances... especially after the first

It's not the coach, any finish and it's a lopsided win

It is the coach because with a better system it's a lopsided win.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Spurs

It was done in comparison to Love who equally has no winning pedigree.

I can't disagree with that although Love does have a better pro record than Huska as a head coach. I didn't want either.

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

It is the coach because with a better system it's a lopsided win.

This is just nonsense. A system produces lopsided wins now?

The issue is high end talent on this team. This team will go as far as its best players will take them.The post-Johnny and Tkachuk era flames don’t have top 8 talent in the conference. The sample size is more than sufficient to draw that conclusion now.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

This is just nonsense. A system produces lopsided wins now?

The issue is high end talent on this team. This team will go as far as its best players will take them.The post-Johnny and Tkachuk era flames don’t have top 8 talent in the conference. The sample size is more than sufficient to draw that conclusion now.

No, nonsense is thinking systems don't effect how a team wins or loses. The wrong system for the players you are icing will not lead to success. If the Vegas Golden Knights played Huska's perimeter no traffic system they would be where we are. Pretty much every hockey expert predicted the Flames to be at least a WC team this year looking at their talent, I think I will take their read on the roster with a little more weight than yours.

[Infinit47]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

What comments are you talking about? I've seen him say this:

“They’re super friendly, and it’s a great environment inside the room because the players and the coaches are connected; they’re like best friends,” Zadorov explained. “But we’re also super respectful to them and listening to them. It’s just a great chemistry between [the] coaching staff and the players.”

But I don't see where he said the coaching is better in Vancouver.

You are a glaring example of confirmation bias. You are seeking out information that validates something you long ago decided, and have no sincere interest in anything that is counter to that.

https://www.canucksdaily.com/vancouv...s-organization

He says the Vancouver coaching is better. Tkachuk said the same thing after leaving. If course they are probably telling lies and listening to them is just my confirmation bias.

Feel free to point out all the data I am ignoring which demonstrates the Flames routinely employ top notch coaches.