10-05-2023, 05:34 PM
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#121
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All I can get
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Wait until Sergeev is ready. All our goaltending issues will be solved.
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10-05-2023, 06:04 PM
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#122
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FireGilbert
I get the Wolf demotion in a vacuum but it does speak to larger organizational issues with player development. He has nothing to learn in the AHL, they needed to find a way to get him NHL playing time.
Hopefully Vladar can be moved soon. Totally expect the Flames to keep Vladar all year just to lose him for nothing in free agency while frustrating and stagnating our best prospect.
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How does this prevent him from getting nhl playing time
He can go up and down easily
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10-05-2023, 06:06 PM
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#123
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: The Pas, MB
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Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan
Markstrom also has a NMC but I can't recall what the conditions of it are, or if it's a full NMC.
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It's full, unless things go really sour with him and the team and he wants out he's not going anywhere. And I doubt Conroy wants to move him anyway.
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10-05-2023, 06:21 PM
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#124
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FireGilbert
I get the Wolf demotion in a vacuum but it does speak to larger organizational issues with player development. He has nothing to learn in the AHL, they needed to find a way to get him NHL playing time.
Hopefully Vladar can be moved soon. Totally expect the Flames to keep Vladar all year just to lose him for nothing in free agency while frustrating and stagnating our best prospect.
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He’s 22 with just two pro seasons under his belt, of course he still has something to learn that can be learned at the AHL level.
He had a couple bad games in the last series where the Wranglers were eliminated. He also had a rough start last season and a few multi-game stretches where he wasn’t playing at an even average level. Can’t expect even the best starters to keep things above average all the time, let alone elite, but you don’t want to see games where he’s letting in 5+ goals in the AHL.
That doesn’t mean he isn’t ready for the NHL today and wouldn’t be suited to continuing his progression in the NHL, but he for sure has things he can learn and refine while getting playing time in the AHL.
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10-05-2023, 06:27 PM
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#125
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Bingo
For sure in a simplistic world that doesn't take into account any other factors or variables!
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Like losing Vladar for nothing.
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10-05-2023, 06:28 PM
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#126
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
How does this prevent him from getting nhl playing time
He can go up and down easily
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Hopefully that is the plan. Get him some games with the big team until the goalie situation cleans itself up
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10-05-2023, 06:38 PM
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#127
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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It's just hard to give the Flames the benefit of the doubt in terms of goalie development when the Flames haven't drafted AND developed a single starting goalie in 30 years despite tons of 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks being used.
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10-05-2023, 08:19 PM
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#128
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by topfiverecords
Weak? We have the Safety Dansk if we want to.
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Anyone who doesnt Dansk is no friend of mine.
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10-05-2023, 08:31 PM
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#129
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Dec 2021
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1qqaaz
It's just hard to give the Flames the benefit of the doubt in terms of goalie development when the Flames haven't drafted AND developed a single starting goalie in 30 years despite tons of 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks being used.
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Behold, the Flames best Drafted and Developed Goaltending talent!
Real killers row.
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10-05-2023, 08:37 PM
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#130
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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How could you forget…
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10-05-2023, 08:45 PM
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#131
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Don't forget Leland Irving...
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10-06-2023, 12:33 AM
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#132
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Dec 2021
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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Originally Posted by topfiverecords
How could you forget…

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The Krahn-Ton Bomb. A thousand apologies.
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10-06-2023, 02:11 AM
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#133
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by dieHARDflameZ
Absolute BS move to send Zary down.
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10-06-2023, 06:08 AM
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#134
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gemnoble
Behold, the Flames best Drafted and Developed Goaltending talent!
Real killers row.
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We should have known something was wrong with Kidd based on that choice of hairstyle and hat position alone. WTF is this picture?
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10-06-2023, 08:47 AM
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#135
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Jah Chalgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
We should have known something was wrong with Kidd based on that choice of hairstyle and hat position alone. WTF is this picture?
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Is that a mullet in the back too?
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10-06-2023, 08:50 AM
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#136
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Flames have two NHL goalies under contract, one of them with a NMC. They have an exciting prospect who is waiver exempt. They each performed about the same in preseason, plus the differing levels of competition made it really hard to judge. Of course waiver exempt gets moved.
It’s not like Wolf forced their hand here.
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10-06-2023, 09:03 AM
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#137
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: still in edmonton
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Elementary school me really liked Trevor Kidd. When my soccer coach had the same last name I wondered if they were related and was excited to ask.
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10-06-2023, 09:39 AM
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#138
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All I can get
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never mind
Last edited by Reggie Dunlop; 10-06-2023 at 09:48 AM.
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10-06-2023, 09:45 AM
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#139
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Vladar is 80, thats a 90 (draft year)
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10-06-2023, 09:47 AM
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#140
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All I can get
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Duh.
Need coffee.
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