[Rumour] Friedman: Flames may go after Duclair

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Man a lot has changed since May 18th.



Or May 5th.





Or April 19th



Funny how you trashed him pretty much the entire playoffs...but now he's a bonafide top 6 forward with lots of value since his name is in trade rumours. I actually have no issue with the Flames adding him, but don't think he should have a ton of value either and IMO is the most likely player Florida moves to create cap space.

These were in the heat of the moment -comments when he did something stupid during a game. I'm not sure what your point is here, thanks for "busting" me I guess and having the trouble going through my posting history He's not a perfect player by any means and has bad moments occasionally. But overall Duclair had a very solid showing in the playoffs, especially compared to previous playoffs when he got benched.


I'm not sure why you think I would be propping up Duclair just because he is in trade rumors? You think it matters what I say about him, that I can somehow conjure a trade to existence? You think I can sell him to Conroy? What a weird take.

[Braden]

I thought last year was bad, Ive never seen so many depressing thread titles on here... come on Conroy give us something that is not Duclair... give us some futures, I want some hope! Build a team that 2027 UFA Cale Makar wants to come home too, lets gooo

[joejoe3]

Lol imagine a Sam Bennett pkg deal

[heep223]

Originally Posted by cannon7

Hope this is Friedman just pulling things out of his ass.

If Conroy is actually considering this then the season is lost.

I hate to break this to you...the season is not going to be won, Duclair or not

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Spurs

Building around Hubredeau is a bad idea. He is a sunk cost and we are now stuck with him, we shouldn't double down on that mistake by adding other players we don't need to try to carry us to 8th and 4 games in the first round.

I am not saying it’s a good idea.

Treliving gifted Conroy Huberdeau and Kadri. He has no choice but to make something work around them.

Sure they can do a complete rebuild but I don’t believe that until I see some sign of it

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

The team may lose up to 4 key players

We do not know what are the returns

It’s optimistic to assume they will be better than last year

Yes. I am an optimist. Hockey is fun.

[saillias]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

Ok I listened to the podcast. Marek pretty much just threw out Hanifin and Zadorov’s names. Friedman didn’t even confirm that either of those two would be in a hypothetical Duclair trade. It was just pure speculation from Marek’s part. I think we can calm down

Yup Marek likes to think up scenarios. I'm sure he hears things but he doesn't do insider work. He'll just throw stuff out there, "I wonder if team x would be on on player y" He has a lot of ideas and a creative imagination.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

I mean yeah may as well add another 2024 UFA to this group

I'm not even sure why this would be a focus right now

Because they are trying to get huberdeau going.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by saillias

Yup Marek likes to think up scenarios. I'm sure he hears things but he doesn't do insider work. He'll just throw stuff out there, "I wonder if team x would be on on player y" He has a lot of ideas and a creative imagination.

This is so very accurate and I tend to get caught up in the moment of listening to him and then in this case having Friedman just going along with it to be polite.

[Calgary4LIfe]

There is only one reason to grab Duclair - if he makes Huberdeau feel better so his Huberdeau's numbers can rebound.



Duclair has always been fairly decent at putting up numbers, but has never been a guy an organization wants to keep. Health issues too. I just don't see him as a piece that has any value, unless he is the 'cap hit' that has to go the other way.


Also, I would prefer the Flames not trade with and help Florida improve since we have one of their future first-round picks.

[dissentowner]

This is just Freidman speculating they Duclair could be a fit for Calgary given his history with Huby. I don't think there is anything to see here but a couple guys spitballing.

[NewFan]

GM, please don't try to chase 2 rabbits. Think and plan about a team after 3 years.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

There is only one reason to grab Duclair - if he makes Huberdeau feel better so his Huberdeau's numbers can rebound.



Duclair has always been fairly decent at putting up numbers, but has never been a guy an organization wants to keep. Health issues too. I just don't see him as a piece that has any value, unless he is the 'cap hit' that has to go the other way.


Also, I would prefer the Flames not trade with and help Florida improve since we have one of their future first-round picks.

I think injuries are a major factor with him and probably a big reason why he is so inconsistent year-to-year.

The only positives are that he has just 1 year left on his deal and the cap hit is relatively low. He could be good deadline trade bait if he has a good season, and there is no commitment to keep him if he doesn't work out. I wouldn't give up much to get him though. Maybe like a 3rd rounder or something of similar value.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Saqe

These were in the heat of the moment -comments when he did something stupid during a game. I'm not sure what your point is here, thanks for "busting" me I guess and having the trouble going through my posting history He's not a perfect player by any means and has bad moments occasionally. But overall Duclair had a very solid showing in the playoffs, especially compared to previous playoffs when he got benched.


I'm not sure why you think I would be propping up Duclair just because he is in trade rumors? You think it matters what I say about him, that I can somehow conjure a trade to existence? You think I can sell him to Conroy? What a weird take.

Honestly I think it was a lot more than heat of the moment stuff. It persisted all playoffs and in one of those cases I was the one you were arguing with after Duclair had made a great play to set up a go-ahead goal.

I didn't have to scour the posts because I remembered the exchange (and doing a search for "Duclair" and your username was pretty easy)

I know you're not going to influence Conroy...but I'm just saying that your own narrative on the player isn't consistent.

All playoffs you said he shouldn't be in the top 6...and now all of a sudden somebody else called him a third liner and it's "He's a bonafide top 6 forward"

He shouldn't carry the value of a top 6 forward in a trade at all, and if he's the main piece in return for Hanifin then Conroy messed up horribly.

[OutOfTheCube]

It's actually not a terrible idea if it's for pennies on the dollar to maybe try and get Huberdeau going. If they do sell a lot of players for futures, they also need some players to actually be on the roster and he's also an upcoming UFA.

Where it's dumb is if they're using one of their better trade pieces to acquire him and/or other veteran players.

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Honestly I think it was a lot more than heat of the moment stuff. It persisted all playoffs and in one of those cases I was the one you were arguing with after Duclair had made a great play to set up a go-ahead goal.

I didn't have to scour the posts because I remembered the exchange (and doing a search for "Duclair" and your username was pretty easy)

I know you're not going to influence Conroy...but I'm just saying that your own narrative on the player isn't consistent.

All playoffs you said he shouldn't be in the top 6...and now all of a sudden somebody else called him a third liner and it's "He's a bonafide top 6 forward"

He shouldn't carry the value of a top 6 forward in a trade at all, and if he's the main piece in return for Hanifin then Conroy messed up horribly.

Yeah you're being pretty disingenuous here.

The April 19th comments: Florida played against Boston
The May 18th comments: Florida played against Carolina

Those comments are hot takes that happened during a game. You know, like the ones that people make in EVERY single GT probably ever made or that will be made on this forum. Heat of the moment comments that maybe don't 100% accurately encapsulate their opinion of the player? Maybe made in frustration when players make mistakes?

The May 5th comment "He has been good the last couple of games, not before at all." Like really? Big whoop, he came back from a serious injury and was bad the entire regular season and only started to find his game in the playoffs.

I'm just curious what's your narrative about me that you are trying to drive here? Why do you go digging my post history and and bring up these hot takes and then represent them as inconsistencies?

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by heep223

I hate to break this to you...the season is not going to be won, Duclair or not

By "season is lost" I mean it will be a wasted year of trying to pretend to be competitive.

I'm in the "blow it up" camp, to be clear.