Poll: who do you want to be the next GM?

[looooob]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/...-coach-gm-jobs

hmm Savard and Stillman are on the next tier coaching list


Iggy/Savard/Stillman as the Flames coaching staff- Conroy spontaneously combusts

[Buff]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/...-coach-gm-jobs

No mention of the Wrangler's coach. Where's the Love?

[bax]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

I voted Conroy, and would be okay with him and Pascal working together in associate roles, but would be okay with Tulsky or Futa coming in as an outsider with new ideas. The most important thing that can happen IMO is to build the team toward the style that is likely to be successful long-term, and that isn't what this roster looks like right now.

Tulsky and Futa couldn’t be more different. Only similarity they share is that they aren’t currently employed by the Flames.

[I_H8_Crawford]

I want Sutter!

When he said he had unfinished business, he didn't mean winning the cup, he meant topping the Phaneuf trade!

Wolf + 2nd to Edmonton for Ryan, Foegele, and Ceci!

[Spurs]

I went with other because I think that best represents what I think and that is that it doesn't really matter who the GM is because this team is so hamstrung by the owners (and I know that might be me buying into a fake narrative but it is hard not to believe) and the moves of last summer.

The team is nowhere near good enough to compete. I can see that many blame Sutter for the problems of last season but although he didn't do a great job the reality this team just wasn't good enough. The roster is average at best and worst the parts that we do have do not seem to be good fits for each other. I am not sure there is a line that makes sense for Hubredeau and that is a problem. Even if you think individually we have good players outside of a 3rd line I don't see any combination that makes sense for the top two lines no matter who you put there.

The contracts make rebuilding/retooling/whatever you want to call it impossible. We can't move the Kadri, Hubredeau, Markstrom contracts but likely aren't bad enough to drop into the draft pick range to get the elite talent. The most tradable assets Toffoli, Lindhom, Backlund, Weegar, Anderson, Hanifin even if we wanted to move them aren't bringing back much more than decent players/picks and hope.

Unfortunately the time to change GM's was last summer when the new GM would have had an (almost) blank slate to take the team where he wanted. At this point I struggle to see how any GM can do anymore than keep the team in the 7-12 range and a first round loss for the next 5 seasons.

Sorry for the overly pessimistic first post but it is hard for me to be positive about the Flames future at this point. I think this is the lowest I have been and that includes being a big time fan during the Young Gun Era.

[1qqaaz]

I get that Conroy has continuity with the team and has demonstrated loyalty to this city and franchise.

But it is difficult to measure Conroy's impact on success, or lack thereof. He hasn't been a head GM, so we can't credit him with leading a team to success. He also doesn't even come from a winning organization, so we can't even say that he knows how to operate in a manner that results with success. I think the Flames need someone who either has led, or has won, but we can't have neither. It would be nice if Conroy at least "led" the AHL team.

Tulsky hasn't really led either, but he at least comes from a winning team. We know that he is directly credited with certain aspects of Carolina's success.
This is what he know about him:

"Eric Tulsky is in his eighth season with the Hurricanes and his second as assistant general manager. As assistant general manager, Tulsky is involved in all player personnel decisions, oversees pro scouting and the team's hockey information department, and assists with player contract negotiations, salary cap compliance, and other hockey-related matters. Tulsky previously served as vice president of hockey management and strategy.

Tulsky first joined the Hurricanes organization in 2014 as a hockey analyst, using data to help inform decision-making on personnel decisions, on-ice tactics, draft decisions, and other hockey-related matters. Prior to being named vice president of hockey management and strategy, Tulsky served as manager of hockey analytics.

A Philadelphia native, Tulsky holds a B.A. in chemistry and physics from Harvard University and a Ph.D. in chemistry from the University of California, Berkeley. He also conducted a two-year post-doctoral study at the Naval Research Laboratory in Washington, DC. He worked in high-tech industry for 12 years, managing teams of researchers focused on using nanotechnology to solve problems in DNA sequencing, solar energy, displays, and energy storage; he holds 19 US patents."

An argument can be made that he is the most intelligent person in the hockey world at this point in time. And this is saying something.

[Roof-Daddy]

Very few of us here (if any) know whether Conroy would be a good GM or not. Same goes for most of the potential candidates really, especially the ones with no track record sitting in the big chair.

[Rejean31]

This fellow sounds intriguing:

Ryan Martin, New York Rangers assistant general manager

Martin, who came to New York in 2021 after 16 years with the Red Wings, has put in the work. "If you looked around the league and tried to identify someone who doesn't have GM experience but could step into that role seamlessly from day one, Ryan Martin would be top of list," one respondent said. "He has experience in all assets of hockey ops." That includes working across amateur, scouting and pro staffs, overseeing AHL teams, plus managing the salary cap and contract negotiations for two of the premier organizations in the league. Martin interviewed in Anaheim, and according to sources close to that process, "he interviewed extremely well."

[Rejean31]

Originally Posted by NewFan

I don't know who will be next GM, but if they don't want to rebuild, I think Conroy should get that role. He knows the players and Treliving so he will just to continue what could Treliving do next couple of years.

But my wish they get very new, aggressive, younger GM that can lead this team total rebuild. Next 2 seasons should be the perfect years to bottom up at the standings and get some high draft picks. Because next season this team's mood will be bad as some of the players wants out, some of them will be traded so there will be lots of roster changes. So why don't go for the top 3 picks.

Gee, too bad they didn't think of this in the Connor Bedard draft year.

[memphusk]

Conroy got Gaudreau signed. Treliving didn't. Do it.

[memphusk]

Just for the interviews alone they need to do it.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by memphusk

Conroy got Gaudreau signed. Treliving didn't. Do it.

Conroy seems to be the guy they dispatch to do a lot of the heavy lifting. He gets involved in signing players and scouting high profile events. He is also they guy that saw a need for a dedicated full-time power skating coach for the organization and got Danielle Fujita into the organization.

Pascallruns the AHL team. To be honest, I am not sure what being an AHL team GM entails. I would think a lot of the personnel decisions come from the NHL club, but there must be a lot more to it. I am sure Pascal is also involved in scouting and player evaluations, but as far as running the day-to-day operations of the Wranglers goes, I have no idea what that means specifically.

[Two Fivenagame]

About Tulsky - How does someone with a PHD in chemistry and a career in the tech industry end up as AGM for a hockey franchise?

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

I get that Conroy has continuity with the team and has demonstrated loyalty to this city and franchise.

But it is difficult to measure Conroy's impact on success, or lack thereof. He hasn't been a head GM, so we can't credit him with leading a team to success. He also doesn't even come from a winning organization, so we can't even say that he knows how to operate in a manner that results with success. I think the Flames need someone who either has led, or has won, but we can't have neither. It would be nice if Conroy at least "led" the AHL team.

I'm hoping Maloney has enough time in the war room over the past few years to know what Conroy and Pascal bring to the table. That's the inner stuff you won't get in an interview with outside candidates.

But I'd rather take the internal guy that made an impact in mapping a direction than the guy that ran the AHL team. Most of what makes a GM great (setting up scouting, draft plan, trades, etc) don't trickle down to running an AHL squad. You get your players from above.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Two Fivenagame

About Tulsky - How does someone with a PHD in chemistry and a career in the tech industry end up as AGM for a hockey franchise?

He's a smart individual, and obviously loves sports so got involved.

Not unusual for smart people in industries to rise to the top.

I'd be OK with a smart individual running this team.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Mark Hunter is a interesting candidate.

He is not the young mind, but he was part of that Leafs group that is big on analytics I wonder what is take is on that. Plus the connection to the championship team as well.

I wonder if they have internally decided on Conroy but are out looking for information on the team maybe someone blows them away and changes their mind.

Tulsky apparently was given a day to put together a presentation for the Hawks.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Very few of us here (if any) know whether Conroy would be a good GM or not. Same goes for most of the potential candidates really, especially the ones with no track record sitting in the big chair.

I would prefer not Conroy for the reason that this team needs some fresh air. Conroy may be great, but the team has been nothing more than average since he has been involved in any capacity.

[dustygoon]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Mark Hunter is a interesting candidate.

He is not the young mind, but he was part of that Leafs group that is big on analytics I wonder what is take is on that. Plus the connection to the championship team as well.

I think the choice of taking Marner over Hannifin in that draft was fairly well known to have occurred because of Hunter (albeit he had marner in London so already knew him). The track record of London finding talent is well known.

But if you look at the leafs drafting from 2014 to 2018 when Hunter was head of player personnel and then AGM where he at least had significant influence, i wouldn't say the draft record was that great.

Not sure how the leafs chose Liljegren over Robert Thomas (london knight player) at 17th overall 2017 for instance. Maybe someone else on here knows more about that one?

[SuperMatt18]

The reason I like Conroy is because I think he's the type of person who would understand that in order to succeed you need to build a really good team around you, and then trust those people's opinions.

Tulsky falls in that same boat IMO.

I don't want the guy who think's he's the smartest guy in the room, I want the GM who is going to build a strong team of people top to bottom.

[Spurs]

Conroy wouldn't excite me as a hire or disappoint me, I am unsure about him. The positives is that he knows the team, players, city and seems to have a connection that would have him wanting to stay here long term and understand any unique issues that we have as a market.

On the other hand I am always worried that a person with connections to players might be less willing to move on from them or recognize their warts.

I am also not sure that if Conroy had been a GM of a team that had the exact same results and issues that we did but in say Columbus would be an Asst. GM that we would want him to take over. My concern is that emotions not hockey reasons are what is driving the push for him.