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[traptor]

All of our "bottom 6" have been solid given that they're supposed to be bottom six. Backlund, coleman, lucic, Lewis, ritchie and Rooney have all been good given their roles.
The only two that should be playing up are backlund and coleman.
I was actually impressed with lucic and his impact tonight but he shouldn't be getting top 6 minutes.

Toffoli had a solid night and . Not sure why they are keeping both right shots paired together.

Huberdeau and lindholm are struggling and are anchoring down whatever lines they're on.

Give this I would try
Huberdeau - lindholm - mang/dube
Mang/dube - kadri - toffoli
Lewis/lucic - backlund - coleman
Lewis/lucic - Rooney - ritchie

On d weegar has been pretty spotty. Alot of bad turnovers by him last couple games as he keeps trying to pass through the middle. Alot of bad turnovers by the flames in general.

[traptor]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

4th line after icings and TV timeouts when you’re down a goal in the third is more baffling than the line combinations.

He’s also played them way too much against McDavid in the two games vs the Oilers. Think it was 4th line on the ice when McDavid scored Saturday

Yeah sutter loves to give 4th line ozone starts and I don't get it.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

The 2–5 Wranglers are coming off a year where they went to the fourth round of the AHL playoffs. There are some very, very good players on that team, including guys the Flames drafted in the first round with hopes that they would develop into NHL forwards.

The Flames are the only team in the entire NHL whose draft picks since 2018 have yet to play a single NHL game. It used to be them and Boston but now Jakub Lauko is in the league.

At a certain point you have to graduate somebody.

And??? That's neat now do it again or better .My coaches and or bosses always have stressed this and I've always agreed. Anybody can do it once If your really that good you'll go out there repat that and do it multiple times.

[Barnet Flame]

At 5-2 it looked like the top line was struggling. But at least we were 5-2.

Now all the lines are struggling.

Sutter needs to go back to the lines that had us 5-2 and let the top line figure it out.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

And??? That's neat now do it again or better .My coaches and or bosses always have stressed this and I've always agreed. Anybody can do it once If your really that good you'll go out there repat that and do it multiple times.

Pelletier was drafted in 2019. He is coming off a year where he was one of the very best players of his age group in the entire AHL.

He is also one of only five players from the 2019 first round who has yet to play in the NHL, and two of the other guys have been in college. There are significantly worse prospects who have already made the NHL over him.

[Mindtravellee]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Dude

Anyway his replacement is Mackey who is already in the lineup now and is basically and AHL callup since he would be there if Kylington and Tanev were healthy

Of course hope he is back next game, but if he's eventually.put on it's a lost chance trying Phillips or Zary who have been performing well in the AHL

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

And??? That's neat now do it again or better .My coaches and or bosses always have stressed this and I've always agreed. Anybody can do it once If your really that good you'll go out there repat that and do it multiple times.

Wrong.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Pelletier was drafted in 2019. He is coming off a year where he was one of the very best players of his age group in the entire AHL.

He is also one of only five players from the 2019 first round who has yet to play in the NHL, and two of the other guys have been in college. There are significantly worse prospects who have already made the NHL over him.

And ? Has he repeated his performance or better?

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by butterfly

Wrong.

Ok . No one has ever ever had an amazing year and couldn't repeat.. see Chris Stewart.....lots of prospects have had career years in the ahl and can't translate the game to NHL. How is that even disputed ?

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

Ok . No one has ever ever had an amazing year and couldn't repeat.. see Chris Stewart.....lots of prospects have had career years in the ahl and can't translate the game to NHL. How is that even disputed ?

That's not what you argued. You said "anybody can do it once", which is categorically false.

[bubbsy]

Love sutter, but I think he jumped the gun on the line shuffle.

Yes, getting Lindholm and huberdaeu going was important but the remaining 3 lines were highly effective. Curious if not changing up every line would have had better results (Ie. Shake up top 6 but leave bottom 6 in tact).

Unfortunately it seems every facet of the team has been affected (forwards, d, pp, pk)....

[Tsawwassen]

Postgame links
https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl...ov-3-1.6640053
https://www.espn.com/nhl/recap/_/gameId/401458751
https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/games/2465811/

[CroFlames]

[Rick M.]

Is there any word on the nature of Tanev’s ‘upper body’ injury? I hope it’s not the surgically repaired shoulder.

[taxbuster]

Boys can't get out on the road fast enough. Thought this home stand would be good for them to get gelled and together, but apparently it backfired. Ugh.

[dammage79]

Sutter sticking to his broken lines shouldn't be a surprise. He clearly needs a data set to work with. The first batch of line had what 6 games? This group of lines will likely see the same unless this absolute cratering continues next game.

I'd rather Sutter work this stuff out now than kind of get lost in the woods at the end of the year.

I don't really thing he cares as much where they get into the playoffs, so much as just getting in. So he likely thinks he has some time to work this out.

Gotta think Tree understands though that landing another top 6 winger is growing more important by the game. It's an extremely noticeable hole that's causing some real serious issues.

I love Lucic but the dude is a 4th liner plain and simple.

Honestly don't care if they call a kid up to give him a shot but just do it. Would prefer it to be Zary.

[zuluking]

Ok, as I sit here feeling absolutely terrible with the first cold running through our house since COVID (which is probably unsurprisingly hitting us all harder than normal and sticking around longer than normal), I'm thinking it may not just be my house. These guys have been stuck at home for the first part of the season while all this crap is running through Calgary. So why suddenly does this team play slow with no energy, with uncharacteristic minutes for different lines and players, etc.? I can't help but wonder if they aren't working through a locker room bug / cold / flu, whatever. Why does Coleman play 11 minutes? He's sick maybe. Why are some bottom roster players getting more minutes? They're less sick possibly. Markstrom missed a game early on cuz he was sick. He was probably the first one down.

I mean, the whole team doesn't just suddenly forget what made them successful in the first five or six games. High energy, high pace. I say, give it a week for recovery (if my theory is correct) and even better, get them on the frickin' ROAD so they can live in a bubble for a while!

[BigFlameDog]

They look like a team that is battling some sick. Slow starts, listless play with the odd surge in energy and a coach juggling to try to prop up low energy guys with whoever is going to try to get through it.

Even the radio guys sound like they are hit by something. From what I can tell it is everywhere in town. My one kids team in Cochrane and the other in Okotoks have been decimated the last week.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Mindtravellee

I don't get this "they need to get on the road, they've been home too long". Sounds like something a good old lock in wouldn't fix (is that a thing in Canada?).

When do the waivers expire? This would be a good time to call people up before they need waivers again. In a way I hope Tanev goes onto IR and they actually call up some of the top performing AHL players.

Wild post.

The road is good for focus. Have a wife and kids and obligations?

If they needed to go on waivers at the start of the year, they’ll need em again so what’s the difference.

Hoping for Tanev to IR? Next level yikes.

AHL players aren’t the answer. The long game is the answer.

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by zuluking

Ok, as I sit here feeling absolutely terrible with the first cold running through our house since COVID (which is probably unsurprisingly hitting us all harder than normal and sticking around longer than normal), I'm thinking it may not just be my house. These guys have been stuck at home for the first part of the season while all this crap is running through Calgary. So why suddenly does this team play slow with no energy, with uncharacteristic minutes for different lines and players, etc.? I can't help but wonder if they aren't working through a locker room bug / cold / flu, whatever. Why does Coleman play 11 minutes? He's sick maybe. Why are some bottom roster players getting more minutes? They're less sick possibly. Markstrom missed a game early on cuz he was sick. He was probably the first one down.

I mean, the whole team doesn't just suddenly forget what made them successful in the first five or six games. High energy, high pace. I say, give it a week for recovery (if my theory is correct) and even better, get them on the frickin' ROAD so they can live in a bubble for a while!

I remember hearing a couple weeks ago on Flames radio that something was going through the team. Very plausible that it's still lingering.