I feel for Jada more than anyone else involved. I’m sure she was absolutely stunned and devastated seeing Smith up there acting like an idiot in front of millions of people.
I think she’s got Will on strings like a marionette and is a piece of work herself. I bet it was a look from her tat got him to stop laughing and snap. From the baloney I’ve seen of her on those interviews about their breakup she’s not the kind of girl you beg your friend to stay away from and of course he goes back cause he’s whipped.
It looked real to me. In a setting like that the crowd reactions don’t surprise me. No one saw it coming and were probably still processing it as he sat back down. It’s not like cops are gonna run in and arrest him on the spot. The academy reps and Wills rep and friends were all over it during the commercial breaks.
Also learned two things tonight. Jayda has alopecia and Will and her are back together. Denzel should have given him better advice, “fool me once shame on you, fool me twice…”
No one reacted the way people react for real violence, when Smith walked onto the stage, supposedly out of control and angry Rock just stood their waiting for him rather than backing away, nor did Rock particularly flinch when Smith went to hit him or back away afterwards, he knew Smith was going to turn around and walk away after he just stood their and then made a joke about it
I've had to break up enough real violence with anger and fear to know bull#### when I see it
Have you had to break up violence when someone smacked another person on stage, before millions of people?
This isn't a normal reaction because this isn't a normal situation. Chris Rock didn't know what Will Smith was about to do, and once he got slapped he cocked his right hand for a split second, then realized his situation.
It doesn't seem like a work because it's likely not a work. Chris legit looks befuddled at what to do next.
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I'm not defending him if in fact it was real. But the police don't need to be wasting their time dealing with crap like this and IMO it would be very unusual for an assault case to arise out of a single slap. I'd feel differently if he slugged him and broke his jaw or something.
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From my own experience the police will only charge if there’s a compliant and that would pretty much have to come from Rock as he would be the victim and prime witness. Yes they can charge based on just the video evidence and they will charge assaulters without the victim off there’s good evidence of the assault but that’s mainly for domestic abuse situations where the victim won’t cooperate. Unless Rock goes to the cops this will most likely just be a big nothing burger to the lapd.
Or, and here's a thought, laugh and shrug it off completely.
That's what most normal people would do, but that's not sticking up for his wife, which is what I was responding to. If he felt the need to stick up for his wife, there are better ways of doing it and again, bring understand and acceptance to a real problem which I think is a much better, much more effective way of handing a situation. Better than laughing along, better than shrugging it off and certainly better than slapping someone.
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Was that a genuine laugh or a Joe Pesci in Goodfellas about to murder you laugh?
I think it was a "oh, crap, he made some sort of joke that in some way involves me, I don't really get what he was saying and might not have really been paying attention but I must now laugh because the camera might pan to me and I have to look like I'm a good sport when that happens because my image must be one of being okay with being made fun of even though I'm one of the most vain, self-obsessed individuals on the planet" laugh.
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No one reacted the way people react for real violence...
I've had to break up enough real violence with anger and fear to know bull#### when I see it
I've seen both what you're referring to and I've been in situations where this sort of thing happened. What you're talking about is violence with anger among people who are accustomed to violence and aren't too surprised to respond when it happens. What this was was violence with anger in a situation where people do not usually have to experience violence and are so completely shocked by it they don't have any idea how to respond. This is absolutely what the latter situation looks like. I would bet my house this was not bull####.
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It's a work. I'm sure Vince McMahon was backstage. They're going to have a match at Wrestlemania. The Rock and Chris Rock vs Will Smith & John Cena in the HollywoodMania Main Event. Edit to add, there will be a run in by Vin Diesel..
It's a work. I'm sure Vince McMahon was backstage. They're going to have a match at Wrestlemania. The Rock and Chris Rock vs Will Smith & John Cena in the HollywoodMania Main Event.
What’s kind of weird is that Chris Rock is making jokes about Jada Pinkett-Smith but the camera is on Will Smith.
My friend said that Jada has an auto immune disease and that's why she's bald? I don't know, I sort of support Will for standing up for his wife after someone made fun of her being bald.
Part of being a guy that a woman feels safe with is being able to stand up for her, but not taking it too far or going totally unhinged.
It's about having that side under control.
Most women would be scared/repulsed by their own partner for behaving that way. Especially given the very public, formal setting.
Wouldn't surprise me of she was just turned on though. Hollywood's a #####ed up place and the egos are on another level.
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Have you had to break up violence when someone smacked another person on stage, before millions of people?
This isn't a normal reaction because this isn't a normal situation. Chris Rock didn't know what Will Smith was about to do, and once he got slapped he cocked his right hand for a split second, then realized his situation.
It doesn't seem like a work because it's likely not a work. Chris legit looks befuddled at what to do next.
there are some things that always happen in a fight, you always know a guy is going to hit you, you can see it his body language, the thousand yard stare, you always know and so you always back up, you dont even know you are doing it but everyone does, you may be pleading for peace or getting ready to punch him back but everyone backs up a step and gets tense, Rock didnt move, their was nothing about this that looked legit including the normal live TV reaction which would be to cut to commercial
And again a slap!! just enough to look real without being too violent and requiring shutting the whole thing down
there are some things that always happen in a fight, you always know a guy is going to hit you, you can see it his body language, the thousand yard stare, you always know and so you always back up, you dont even know you are doing it but everyone does, you may be pleading for peace or getting ready to punch him back but everyone backs up a step and gets tense, Rock didnt move, their was nothing about this that looked legit including the normal live TV reaction which would be to cut to commercial
And again a slap!! just enough to look real without being too violent and requiring shutting the whole thing down
Except this wasn't a fight. It was a guy telling a joke to a theatre full of people broadcast to an audience of tens of millions getting approached on stage by another guy and getting slapped. Chris Rock had absolutely no expection of getting hit.
As a guy that's been sucker punched out of nowhere in a damned on-ice handshake after a hockey game then sprung up, looked around in confusion, and then shook hands with the next equally confused opponent in line I completely understand Rock's reaction.
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This is the first time I've given a second thought to the Oscars in years, especially since the Pandemic.
So...'Job Done' I guess.
And Will Smith's wife has alopecia? She's going bald? So what? That happens to tons of people. Most of them just get on with their day.
Or am I missing something? Is there some sort of actual suffering or terminal element to this that I am unaware of? Because my understanding is that some people just lose their hair. Happens all the time.
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Except this wasn't a fight. It was a guy telling a joke to a theatre full of people broadcast to an audience of tens of millions getting approached on stage by another guy and getting slapped. Chris Rock had absolutely no expection of getting hit.
As a guy that's been sucker punched out of nowhere in a damned on-ice handshake after a hockey game then sprung up, looked around in confusion, and then shook hands with the next equally confused opponent in line I completely understand Rock's reaction.
As soon as Smith jumped on stage Rock would have an expectation of being hit, he was watching him, I too have been sucker punched by some kid from behind me I pissed off but never when the kid was coming at me, you always know a dude is about to take a swing, it is programed into our lizard brain to recognise that body language for our own survival
