07-15-2021, 04:41 PM
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#121
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Hyman is that player that flourished with specific individuals. I respect the hell out of his motor and drive, but I don't think he can just fit in with many other players.
Sometimes chemistry is just a one off.
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07-15-2021, 04:41 PM
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#122
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Franchise Player
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Handing out long term deals to this type of player - the hard forechecking, power forward, puck retrieval type of player - is never a good idea. But is everyone ignoring that he has had multiple knee injuries, including a minor one this year?
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07-15-2021, 04:42 PM
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#123
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Lifetime Suspension
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I'd rather take a run at Gabriel.
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07-15-2021, 04:44 PM
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#124
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by djsFlames
I'd rather take a run at Gabriel.
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Yeah. If things don't work out with Johnny, move him, launch an all in on Landeskog, find the right pieces to fill out holes with J9hnnys return. Or Tkachuk, however they deal with it.
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07-15-2021, 04:48 PM
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#125
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Franchise Player
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What are we doing? Are we going all in? Are we rebuilding/retooling?
I think we’re 50/50 in each camp which is the worst.
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07-15-2021, 04:49 PM
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#126
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by dammage79
Hyman is that player that flourished with specific individuals. I respect the hell out of his motor and drive, but I don't think he can just fit in with many other players.
Sometimes chemistry is just a one off.
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I watch Toronto a fair bit. Suggesting Hyman is just a beneficiary of playing with Matthews is not at all accurate. He gets moved up and down the lineup and is equally effective everywhere. His is so effective when on the 3rd line, they keep moving him up to play with Matthews.
The closest comparison on the Flames is Mangiapane - he is the same great player, no matter who you throw him out there with
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07-15-2021, 04:50 PM
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#127
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
What are we doing? .
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EDIT: n/m
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07-15-2021, 04:52 PM
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#128
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
I watch Toronto a fair bit. Suggesting Hyman is just a beneficiary of playing with Matthews is not at all accurate. He gets moved up and down the lineup and is equally effective everywhere. His is so effective when on the 3rd line, they keep moving him up to play with Matthews.
The closest comparison on the Flames is Mangiapane - he is the same great player, no matter who you throw him out there with
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I'm not saying he's a beneficiary. I'm saying that his best fit is likely the Leafs. Not any other team.
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07-15-2021, 04:53 PM
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#129
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Airdrie
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Honestly really like the player but you know it's going to be a massive over payment.
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07-15-2021, 04:54 PM
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#130
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UnModerator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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No, God! No, God please no! No! No! Nooooooooooooooooooo!
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07-15-2021, 04:54 PM
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#131
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
I'm not saying he's a beneficiary. I'm saying that his best fit is likely the Leafs. Not any other team.
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What a bizarre take. Why would you single out Hyman as someone who only fits on one team?
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07-15-2021, 04:55 PM
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#132
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#1 Goaltender
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This got James Neil and Troy Brouwer all over it. Just no please.
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07-15-2021, 04:55 PM
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#133
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cowtown
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Oh come on, who here doesn't wanna see a flaming Hyman?
Personally I'd rather see a whale Hyman or greasy Hyman.
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07-15-2021, 04:56 PM
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#134
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by cowtown75
Honestly really like the player but you know it's going to be a massive over payment.
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Agreed. I do not want the Flames to sign Hyman to any contract that has a 7 or an 8 in it. Call it a superstition.
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07-15-2021, 04:58 PM
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#135
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
What a bizarre take. Why would you single out Hyman as someone who only fits on one team?
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What's bizarre about it? We know full well it happens. Brouwer capitalized on his chemistry with the Blues into a deal that eventually got bought out because he was a terrible fit in CGY.
It's not a Flames only thing. Some players just fit in on some tes and don't on others.
I like Hyman, but to pay him the term he is seeking reeks of a boat anchor.
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07-15-2021, 05:03 PM
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#136
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Jay Random
Agreed. I do not want the Flames to sign Hyman to any contract that has a 7 or an 8 in it. Call it a superstition.
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Agreed. I would love to see the Flames sign Hyman to a reasonable deal (factoring in that all UFA deals are way too much), but I would really like to not see a 7 or (worse!) 8 year deal.
No problem at all with 6 years
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07-15-2021, 05:04 PM
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#137
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by dammage79
What's bizarre about it? We know full well it happens. Brouwer capitalized on his chemistry with the Blues into a deal that eventually got bought out because he was a terrible fit in CGY.
It's not a Flames only thing. Some players just fit in on some tes and don't on others.
I like Hyman, but to pay him the term he is seeking reeks of a boat anchor.
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The numbers suggest Hyman contributed to his lines success more so than Landeskog did. Seems like Hyman played well with whoever he played with
I’d stay away but my guess is he would come in way cheaper than landeskog and is more likely to have success with us than Neal or brouwer
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07-15-2021, 05:05 PM
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#138
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Agreed. I would love to see the Flames sign Hyman to a reasonable deal (factoring in that all UFA deals are way too much), but I would really like to not see a 7 or (worse!) 8 year deal.
No problem at all with 6 years
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Being so very superstitious, I also don't want to see a 7 or an 8 in the salary.
Which means if Hyman and his agent lost their marbles and offered to sign for league minimum (now $750,000), I would be going, ‘Please take $900,000 and make the bad juju go away.’
Of course, 7 or 8 million would make the juju 10 times as bad.
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07-15-2021, 05:09 PM
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#139
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Franchise Player
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well, $7 or $8M is a fireable offense - Hyman is not worth that.
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07-15-2021, 05:12 PM
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#140
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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Would you rather have Schwartz + Granlund for 7 mill, or Hyman for 7 mill?
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