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Old 01-29-2018, 02:20 PM   #121
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Congrats man. You outsmarted us all.
Thanks, however did not intend to make this a celebration of what my opinion was. Either way neither guy would have worked out. Just did not buy into all the hype of certain media like Kent Wilson who loved to float out his possession stats, when he played in the weak division that he did.
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Old 01-29-2018, 02:20 PM   #122
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It was an elective procedure
How do you know this?
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Old 01-29-2018, 02:22 PM   #123
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How do you know this?
It was announced by Elliote Freidman as an elective procedure on his hip,clean up some scar tissue. He had the procedure done well after the season started and chose to do so because of the lack of him finding a team clearly. I could search for a link if you would like but it was on Hockey Night in Canada.
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Old 01-29-2018, 02:25 PM   #124
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And all 30 other teams shockingly disagreed with your Nostradamus-like prediction.

Shocking stuff.

Ultimately, I dont think the Jagr saga was a bad gamble at all. Small dollars for an amazing veteran and pretty much no downside.

What really stuns me is Bennett with and without Jagr. With him he seems like what you'd expect from someone drafted where he was and without Jagr he seems lost.
I liked the move based on what he brought off of the ice more then on. And to me it was not a waste
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Janko, Bennett and Tkachuk all saw an uptick in their game when Jagr was introduced.

Big success from my perspective. I'd have liked him to stay around in a coaching role
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In hindsight would Iginla have been a better short term signing? At the very least could have been a threat on the PP.
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News Update




https://www.nhl.com/flames/news/flam...no/c-295413028

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The Flames have announced today that they have assigned Jaromir Jagr to HC Kladno of the Czech 1. Liga in the Czech Republic.

Jagr, a native of Klando, Czech Republic, appeared in 22 games for the Flames this season notching one goal and six assists for seven points.

"I want to thank Brad Treliving and the Calgary Flames for giving me the immense opportunity to be a part of their team and continue my NHL career this season," said Jagr. "Although I am very disappointed that things did not turn out as we had hoped due to a number of circumstances, I am deeply grateful to the Flames, the fans and the City of Calgary for having welcomed me so generously. I now look forward to continuing the season in Kladno."

"Jaromir's career speaks for itself," said Flames General Manager Brad Treliving. "He is a legend in our sport and we are very appreciative that he selected Calgary to pursue his career in the NHL. Regretfully, with a late start to his season combined with nagging injuries, he wasn't in a position to perform at the level both he and our team had hoped. During his short time in Calgary, Jaromir demonstrated tremendous leadership and professionalism, especially with our young players. We thank him for his contributions to our group both on and off the ice."


Based on those quotes, you can close the book on him coming back to Calgary.
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Old 01-29-2018, 03:03 PM   #128
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There goes our chances for the Cup.
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Old 01-29-2018, 03:15 PM   #129
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Missing training camp and having constant injuries is tough enough on a younger player, let alone when you're 45. Sucks to see him go. I'm so thankful that I actually got to see him play for the Flames. What a legend.


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Happy to hear he's still gonna be playing hockey instead of flat out retirement.

Thank you and good luck Jagr!
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Old 01-29-2018, 03:23 PM   #131
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Nothing in the transaction though excludes him from a Flames return, though.

I'm under no illusion that will happen, the chances are very very very slim, but if he gets in great shape, feels great, feels confident, his season ends in late March, or so, and the Flames require a forward for the stretch run, technically, as in contractually, he would still be available to come back.
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Old 01-29-2018, 03:25 PM   #132
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Knew this was probably the likely outcome but either way, thanks for the memories.
The Flames Jagr jersey is not a lie! That right there for a jersey collector is priceless in itself.
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I don't think so.



He still will get paid the full amount. Some NHL teams just negotiate with the European team that the European team will pay a certain percentage of a loaned player's salary.

it isn't like they are backing out on the terms of the contract.
With Jagr being the owner of Kladno, he'd have more to gain than most for the Flames to continue paying his entire salary versus Kladno picking up some of it.

I'm curious what the arrangement ended up being.
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Old 01-29-2018, 03:29 PM   #134
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With Jagr being the owner of Kladno, he'd have more to gain than most for the Flames to continue paying his entire salary versus Kladno picking up some of it.

I'm curious what the arrangement ended up being.
Pretty good silver lining for him if you ask me. Get paid to own/play for your own team
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Old 01-29-2018, 03:31 PM   #135
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The Flames Jagr jersey is not a lie! That right there for a jersey collector is priceless in itself.
Just in time to put on for retro night.
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Old 01-29-2018, 03:45 PM   #136
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Knew this was probably the likely outcome but either way, thanks for the memories.
The Flames Jagr jersey is not a lie! That right there for a jersey collector is priceless in itself.
Right up there with this:



Or this (ironically):

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Treliving confirms Jagr’s salary comes off the team’s cap with his loan to Kladno. #Flames

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Treliving says it was a perfect storm working against Jagr. No training camp and injuries made it difficult.

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Old 01-29-2018, 03:57 PM   #138
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Salary coming off the books frees up a bit for a trade deadline acquisition. Not a lot, but having a little jangle in the jeans can help.
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Old 01-29-2018, 04:06 PM   #139
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At least my Jagr Flames jersey was a gift.
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Jagr’s locker ..6 pairs of skates and all. Now a collectors item..
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