What kind of offer would it take for you to trade Sam Bennett?

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by David Struch

To Islanders:

Sam Bennett + Mark Giordano

To Flames:

John Tavares (signed long-term) + Thomas Hickey

Gaudreau - Monahan - Lazar
Tkachuk - Backlund - Frolik
Jankowski - Tavares - Jagr
Versteeg - Dubé - Ferland

Brodie – Hamonic
Hickey – Hamilton
Fox – Stone

why the #### would the Islanders make that deal??

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Resurrection

why the #### would the Islanders make that deal??

Same reason they sent us Hamonic for magic beans... Treliving is a wizard.



(not that I think this silly proposal would ever be considered by either side)

[Ullr]

Originally Posted by ToraToraTora

We'll need to call in someone who knows a little bit more about Bennetts.

I got a buddy who would love to come down here and take a look at him. If that's alright with you.

[Inglewood Jack]

haha...John "Mr. Energy Line" Tavares

[CSharp]

Originally Posted by David Struch

To Islanders:

Sam Bennett + Mark Giordano

To Flames:

John Tavares (signed long-term) + Thomas Hickey

Gaudreau - Monahan - Lazar
Tkachuk - Backlund - Frolik
Jankowski - Tavares - Jagr
Versteeg - Dubé - Ferland

Brodie – Hamonic
Hickey – Hamilton
Fox – Stone

Why the heck would you put Tavares on the 3rd line??? Lazar on the first, WTF?

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Crumpy-Gunt

Lets do an experiment.

[calgaryblood]

There is a reason Monahan gets easy tap in goals and other Flames players don't. He goes to the net and is extremely smart. That over time goal he went exactly where he needed to be to let Brodie have that option.

Take a look at even our best player Gaudreau, he will usually skate behind the net instead of stop in front of the net like Monahan does.

So "easy tap in goals" aren't as easy as people think. I think if you play hockey you know its not easy standing in front of the net. On TV we sometimes look past the rough stuff or slashes that happen in front of the net but they do hurt and it takes balls to keep going back there regardless.

[Enoch Root]

If tap in goals were easy, why doesn't everyone get them?

[DoubleK]

I love this thread.

It's almost as good as some of the discussions about Sven from a couple years back.

[dino7c]

JG sets up 4th liners for tap ins too...they just don't seem to bury them

[Bawbag]

Originally Posted by Resurrection

why the #### would the Islanders make that deal??

More to the point. Why the #### is Tavares 3rd line C

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Resurrection

why the #### would the Islanders make that deal??

Originally Posted by Bawbag

More to the point. Why the #### is Tavares 3rd line C

Clearly it's a three-way deal. First the Banff Fighting Squirrels trade their 3rd-line centre, Humperdinck Tavares, to the Islanders. Then the Isles flip Humperdinck to the Flames for Bennett. Seems perfectly legit to me – as opposed to any deal involving John Tavares.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by N-E-B

On topic, I'm pretty surprised at how many people are adamantly against trading Bennett. In my personal opinion it's pretty clear that his ceiling is a 2nd line player, and I don't even think that's a guarantee. He just hasn't shown any progression that would indicate otherwise. If you can get a team to bite on potential then you do it. I'm not saying you have to trade him, I like what he brings, but he's far from untouchable.

Pretty clear his ceiling is a 2nd line centre? Pretty clear some fans don't project young players well. Just because a young player has some struggles early in his career doesn't mean his upside is low. See Scheiffele. See Turris. See Backlund. See Pronger.

Too much impatience shown by some in this thread. Bennett was rated #1 in his draft year by CSS and Redline because he has a 2nd line centre upside right? His skill and potential didn't disappear. All players are different and not all players are finished products at age 20. Talk of his upside being limited is ridiculous. He may not put it all together but if he does he's one of the most purely skilled players on the team and his upside still remains a 1st line player.

Give the kid some time and show some patience. Most players don't peak by age 20.

[Crumpy-Gunt]

Originally Posted by VilleN

So you invent a scenario, confirm it as fact in your mind, and then use that as evidence that some fans are lunatics.... The lunacy of some posters.

Goal poaching? Who is he poaching goals from? Why isn't Monahan the All-star for scoring the goals?

Because there are tons of 30 goal scorers in the nhl. Past and present. They are just slightly better than 20 goal scorers like brouwer was in stl. Sean scored 7 more goals than brouwer did in his career year, so hes an elite 1st line center and should be an all star. He deserves 6.5m. Derp.

Lmao. Sure monahan is the all star on that line.. whatever you want to believe.

He is toews lite. He is an elite goalscoring, certofied 1st line 2 way center who CREATES offense and can score on his own line..away from johnny..who should be an allstar because he scored all those tap ins in the blue paint.

Go watch the highlights bt AC. From all of monahans seasons. He is the hockey equivalent of Ruud Van Nistelrooy. A goal poaching, fox in the box as they say in soccer. A player whos prime asset is scoring rebounds and cleaning up. Keeping his stick on the ice and passing 35 goals into the net after GODreau draws all the dmen.

Im sure you think hes better than sheifele and deserves more money than forsberg. Our 6'3 220 soft as baby poop center. Who cant even throw a check or stand up for his all star undersized left winger.

Monahan highlight videos are gaudreau highlight videos. Period.

Bennett is more skilled overall and will have the better career. That almost 7 million dollar contract will turn mony into a scapegoat. As time goes on people will question who drives the offense on our first line which was consistently outperformed by backlund frolik and a teenage rookie last season.

How many games has monahan played without gaudreau on his line since gaudreau entered the league?

What was our center depth like when monahan was drafted? He came into camp as our 2nd best center after backlund ffs. He played 1st pp mins with hudler gio brodie. He was sheltered and given offensive zone starts primarily. Those are facts.

Sam Bennett may be the best player in our team and he hasnt had those liberties.

[jonkaupp]

Originally Posted by Crumpy-Gunt

Lmao. Sure monahan is the all star on that line.. whatever you want to believe.

He is toews lite. He is an elite goalscoring, certofied 1st line 2 way center who CREATES offense and can score on his own line..who should be an allstar because he scored all those tap ins in the blue paint.

Go watch the highlights bt AC. From all of monahans seasons. He is the hockey equivalent of Ruud Van Nistelrooy. A goal poaching, fox in the box as they say in soccer. A player whos prime asset is scoring rebounds and cleaning up. Keeping his stick on the ice and passing 35 goals into the net after GODreau draws all the dmen.

Im sure you think hes better than sheifele and deserves more money than forsberg. Our 6'3 220 soft as baby poop center. Who cant even throw a check or stand up for his all star undersized left winger.

Monahan highlight videos are gaudreau highlight videos. Period.

Dumbest #### I’ve ever seen here

[VilleN]

Originally Posted by Crumpy-Gunt

Lmao. Sure monahan is the all star on that line.. whatever you want to believe.



He is toews lite. He is an elite goalscoring, certofied 1st line 2 way center who CREATES offense and can score on his own line..who should be an allstar because he scored all those tap ins in the blue paint.



Go watch the highlights bt AC. From all of monahans seasons. He is the hockey equivalent of Ruud Van Nistelrooy. A goal poaching, fox in the box as they say in soccer. A player whos prime asset is scoring rebounds and cleaning up. Keeping his stick on the ice and passing 35 goals into the net after GODreau draws all the dmen.



Im sure you think hes better than sheifele and deserves more money than forsberg. Our 6'3 220 soft as baby poop center. Who cant even throw a check or stand up for his all star undersized left winger.



Monahan highlight videos are gaudreau highlight videos. Period.

Are you saying Monahan is Toews lite? Who was that paragraph meant to describe?

Goals are goals. If what Monahan does is so easy 30/30 centres should be a dime a dozen. They aren't.

Monahan isn't soft. He's not a heavy, bruising player, but he doesn't play soft.

I didn't bring up Scheifele, quit making up scenarios that support your fragile ego. You did it in your last post, it's embarrassing.


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[Crumpy-Gunt]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

There is a reason Monahan gets easy tap in goals and other Flames players don't. He goes to the net and is extremely smart. That over time goal he went exactly where he needed to be to let Brodie have that option.

Take a look at even our best player Gaudreau, he will usually skate behind the net instead of stop in front of the net like Monahan does.

So "easy tap in goals" aren't as easy as people think. I think if you play hockey you know its not easy standing in front of the net. On TV we sometimes look past the rough stuff or slashes that happen in front of the net but they do hurt and it takes balls to keep going back there regardless.

Hahaha. So monahan is a gritty hockey genius who lives through the slashes and goes to the front of the net. Monahan is soft. He was raped on live tv by kesler. I play hockey. We call tap ins easy goals and give credit to the player who made the pass for the easy goal.

Its smart to go to the net. It takes skill to score those goals. His positioning is impeccable. That doesnt make him an allstar or elite 1st line center or toews lite.

[Crumpy-Gunt]

Originally Posted by VilleN

Are you saying Monahan is Toews lite? Who was that paragraph meant to describe?

Goals are goals. If what Monahan does is so easy 30/30 centres should be a dime a dozen. They aren't.

Monahan isn't soft. He's not a heavy, bruising player, but he doesn't play soft.

I didn't bring up Scheifele, quit making up scenarios that support your fragile ego. You did it in your last post, it's embarrassing.


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My fragile ego. Embarrasing? Lol dont smear me baby girl. Discuss the topic.

Mony is soft and overpaid. 30 goal scorers dont go for 6.5 x 6. He isnt an all star. People call him toews lite. People say he is better than shiefele.(lololol).

Me bringing those comparisons up which have been made several times on cp isnt about my ego. Its me being annoyed with homers who view monahan as some bruising 2 way penalty killing elite 1st line center like kopitar or toews yet view bennett as a failed 1st round pick who should be traded. Piss off lol

[Bawbag]

He is annoying to watch at times. But he has bags of potential, who knows if we will ever see him turn into the player we hope he can be

[meh]

Weren't we having this same discussion regarding Backlund not too long ago?
Chill out!