[Rumour] UPD: Jagr confirms Flames have interest in him.

[TheIronMaiden]

I Want to Believe!

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by TheFlamesVan

Yeah but they have kids to take care of while Jagr is strapping on weights and skating lines late into the evening.

It's not an insult to other dedicated fit athletes, to say that they do not put in as much effort as Jagr does.

Indeed. Very few human beings seem to put as much effort into their craft as Jagr does.

Regardless of one's stance on him, they can't take that away.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

2) People are saying to give him nights off. NOPE! He played all 82 games last year

Cali, can you shed some light on his playoff performance in 2016 for me? I seem to remember he had to be rested a bunch but that could be completely wrong. Did he see the ice a lot then?

[Gaudfather]

Would be fun to have this smile on the bench!

https://mobile.twitter.com/FantasyNH...079808/photo/1

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Bingo

at 3.7M and Bennett at 2 yrs 4.5 total they can make it.

But it does push Foo and Jankowski out of the picture because they'd need to go with 22 skaters and have Bartkowski and F. Hamilton as the extras (they make less than any one else)

I don't know if they would box themselves in this way. That is really no wiggle room or flexibility.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

I don't know if they would box themselves in this way. That is really no wiggle room or flexibility.

Agreed ...

I think it's 2.5M max for any additional player once Bennett is signed.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Agreed ...

I think it's 2.5M max for any additional player once Bennett is signed.

They could spread it out if need be. Give him easy to achieve performance bonuses and offset any overage to next season (Like Iginla did his year in Boston).

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by CsInMyBlood

Pass on Jagr.

If he does sign here, I bet he becomes the new whipping boy AKA Brouwer last year.

46 years old. The wheels will suddenly fall off. Yes, he had some success last season on a team that didn't make the playoffs.

People have been saying this for 4-5 years now. If the wheels were going to fall off they would have by now.

What will likely end this guys career is some sort of knee or back ailment that he simply does not have the perseverance to rehab through anymore.
There is no negative to bringing him in. If he gets hurt or can't compete, you bench him or limit his role significantly. At this point he is blocking nobody except for someone that simply isn't ready.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Parallex

They could spread it out if need be. Give him easy to achieve performance bonuses and offset any overage to next season (Like Iginla did his year in Boston).

Maybe. Is signing Jagr worth spreading dead money into next year?

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Maybe. Is signing Jagr worth spreading dead money into next year?

I would look at it this way... fans would hardly notice it because it'd probably come out to roughly the same size as Raymond's (by then expired) buyout and that spot on the roster (either this year or next) would likely be sub-1M player in any event.

The Flames contention window is open right now and Jagr is a bonafide legend who is still a valuable NHL player. To me... that's worth it. It's entirely fair to not have that opinion but it's where I'm at. My head thinks that he'd be a valuable contributor and the heart wants what the heart wants.

[Table 5]

For Jagr, all reason and logic goes out the window. Make it happen.

[Jiggy_12]

Just from a purely "holy s*** that would be awesome" perspective, I am fully in favour.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Parallex

I would look at it this way... fans would hardly notice it because it'd probably come out to roughly the same size as Raymond's (by then expired) buyout and that spot on the roster (either this year or next) would likely be sub-1M player in any event.

The Flames contention window is open right now and Jagr is a bonafide legend who is still a valuable NHL player. To me... that's worth it. It's entirely fair to not have that opinion but it's where I'm at. My head thinks that he'd be a valuable contributor and the heart wants what the heart wants.

I totally understand your line of reasoning/emotion. And its similar to how I feel about Iginla. We are fans after all, and it is more of an emotional connection than a rational one.

The contention window will be even wider next year (hopefully) so the idea of stealing from next year to help this year gives me pause.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Bingo

I think he broke the Foo signing no?

He also broke the Wideman to Edmonton signing; and the Iginla to Edmonton signing; and Todd Nelson being named the coach in Arizona; and twice said the Draisaitl signing was on the verge of being announced ... but had nothing when it was actually on the verge of being announced.

Based on his track record, getting Foo correct was either just blind luck or was given to him by his one actual source.


This Jagr rumour follows his MO from earlier in the summer where a mainstream media guy linked a player to a team and he piggybacked by throwing out a guess for term and dollar, but rather than saying it's a guess, he makes it seem like insider info he was given.

[ComixZone]

To be fair...he only mentioned Edmonton had contact with Wideman and Iginla. So you saying that he "broke" those signings is just as dubious as what you suspect he's doing.

[Fire]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Cali, can you shed some light on his playoff performance in 2016 for me? I seem to remember he had to be rested a bunch but that could be completely wrong. Did he see the ice a lot then?

He played at least 17 minutes a game in the 2016 playoffs. Lack of ice-time didn't seem to be a problem, he just didn't produce. I'm sure Jagr could give you 40 points in the regular season, but when the intensity level jacks up for the playoffs can he still produce?

[savardandjokinen]

Originally Posted by Fire

He played at least 17 minutes a game in the 2016 playoffs. Lack of ice-time didn't seem to be a problem, he just didn't produce. I'm sure Jagr could give you 40 points in the regular season, but when the intensity level jacks up for the playoffs can he still produce?

I mean his 208 playoff games should say something

[Gaudfather]

Having Jagr in the room might be the best thing to revitalize Mike Smith - he would feel like a veritable spring chicken compared with Jags!

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

I totally understand your line of reasoning/emotion. And its similar to how I feel about Iginla.

For me the difference between Iginla & Jagr is that when I watch Jagr I see a guy who you could justify signing on merit alone (his legendary status then becomes just an awesome bonus). I just can't do that for Iginla anymore... I don't need nostalgia to think signing Jagr is a good idea.

[Fire]

Originally Posted by savardandjokinen

I mean his 208 playoff games should say something

I don't see how his numbers from 10+ years ago is relevant considering his current age. In his last 39 playoff games since coming back to the NHL he has scored a grand total of one goal.